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    pretty sunset sky last night and earlier test shot of distant TV aeria
    and Venus very low on meridian in Sagittarius mid afternoon to sam
    scale at

    http://www.astroman.fsnet.co.uk/atmos.htm

    Nyteca

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    To Nytecam

    What did the heliocentrists do to deserve this !,if the purpose of
    astronomy is simply more than 'pretty' planets and skies using
    geocentric constellation descriptions then perhaps the great effort of
    humanity before telescopes emerged was all in vain.

    You make no apologies for calling yourselves 'astronomers' yet even
    the pre-Copernican astronomers were so much more productive in what
    they did.I lament the loss of the dignity where men even deny the
    principles which fix clocks,terrestial geometry and astronomy together
    and create a sidereal convenience so that the Universe can rotate
    around them and their telescopes.

    Not one of you think enough of your children's lives never mind you own
    to leave your telescopes and cameras aside for a while and discover the
    heritage which is as deep and satisfying as music,art and literature
    when a little effort is given towards familiarity.More than anything it
    is the size of our parent star and the scale of orbital geometry that
    is lost to geocentric descriptions and this was always the preserve of
    the wisdom in men.

    This loss is shown in your 'pretty' description and I only know to well
    that you want to be left alone to enjoy it like that.The problem is
    that you and your less adventurous colleagues ,by calling yourselves
    astronomers, imagine that this is what the great astronomers
    pursued.They did not for they were men dealing with material that is
    for men.


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    In article <1132055014.215368.195120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>, oriel36 wrote:

    <load of tosh snipped>

    Hello Gerald. Goodbye Gerald.

    Jim
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    Jim wrote:
    wrote:


    What do people gain out of all that drivel? I've seen it on many newsgroups
    and never understood it's purpose

    Throwing in the odd bit of flame war bait I can understand their reasoning,
    but not approve. Why go to all the trouble of a large cut and past/type/scan
    effort such as that?

    Pretty pointless really

    Ian
    PS. Has anyone got a step ladder to help me down from this horse?
    It's very high!

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    In article <PM0004059978713722@G3-PB.home>, Ian Moffatt wrote:

    Beats me. Probably better just to killfile him (although I tend not to use
    one)


    Can I borrow it afterwards?

    Jim
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    Your lives are pointless and you would have the rest of humanity join
    you in your diluting of the majesty of astronomy into a mediocre hobby
    which requires no intellectual effort .

    You seem to enjoy running around declaring that everything is pointless
    as if it is some perverse badge that requires recognition but
    mediocrity borne of intellectual vandalism always descends to its
    lowest common denominator - intuitive laziness or incapacity allied
    with optics seem to afford you the luxury of being astronomers with
    having to experience the subtle reasoning behind Copernican/Keplerian
    heliocentricity.

    This is not just my astronomical heritage you destroy but one belonging
    to humanity,unfettered by the linguitic monster you have
    produced.Heliocentricity is an experience that emerges from recognition
    of a faster Earth taking an inner orbital circuit overtaking the
    motions of the slower outer planets

    http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...2000_tezel.gif

    Your Newtonian drivel speaks for itself,a poor fact from a miserable
    man -

    "For to the earth they [planetary orbital motions] appear sometimes
    direct, sometimes stationary, nay, and sometimes retrograde. But from
    the sun they are always seen direct,.."

    http://members.tripod.com/~gravitee/phaenomena.htm

    No wonder you find everything pointless !!!!.


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    Thus spake oriel36 unto the assembled multitudes:


    You must be anything *but* pointless. There's no other reason to explain
    why you're so far up your own ar$e.


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    In article <1132058186.414531.303730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>, oriel36 wrote:

    <snip>

    Jim
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    To Andy Clews

    You most certainly are a breed unto yourselves and no doubt you are
    perfectly content in what you believe even the simple things like
    clocks and axial rotation is contorted into a grotesque sidereal
    monster.

    None of you dare approach me technically on this matter and the support
    for the sidereal justification for axial rotation has all but
    disappeared constituting some progress.

    Do you wish me to explain to you gain how the Equation of Time
    correction transfers from its pre-Copernican roots to heliocentricity
    or do you wish to remain totally ignorant and assume a location rotates
    to face the Sun in 24 hours exactly -

    http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/JennyChen.shtml

    So,encountering a nestful of people who want to believe that the axial
    rotation through 360 degrees in 23 hours 56 min 04 sec represents the
    basis of rotation to 'inertial space' and on to relativistic
    homocentricity from Newtonian quasi-geocentricity is difficult to
    stomach when the Equation of Time principles obliterate this stupid
    type of reasoning.

    It was refreshing to read that the King overuled you cretinous fools in
    respect to Harrison and the watch that keeps pace with axial rotation
    at 15 degrees per hour,pity the monarchy is not strong enough to
    overule your pretensious nonsense today for ultimately it undermines
    Western civilisation and by association -your nation.

    Chances are that you are not traitors but simply incompetent as I have
    found.


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    > None of you dare approach me technically on this matter

    Well...nobody cares and that appears to be more offensive to your
    sensibilities. Also, you don't appear to understand the regurgitated guff
    you are copy & pasting into your news client, so why waste time and energy
    on you?


    DR

 

 
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