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    Group,

    I have added a page on my new Zeiss Binoculars (12x56).
    http://www.wps.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/...gh_quality.htm

    I recommend all binocular users to come and see . . .
    I will add & refine the page over the next week.

    Ciao,
    Roland Herrera



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    How much did you pay for each of your two binoculars?
    I bought some Straphspey 20x80s and wish I'd held out for something of
    better quality.

    Garry



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    Well I have also updated it already

    Ciao
    Roland

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    We're talking around the 1K £ sterling each
    That's how much all high end binos cost

    how much was yr Straphspey ?

    ciao
    Roland

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    "Roland Herrera" <wps@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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    Not quite £1000! They were about £170. They're ok for faint star fields,
    but anything bright has discolouration similair to a prism. Jupiter appears
    as an elongated coloured blob.
    Others on this ng seem pleased with their Strathspeys, so I was probably
    either unlucky or had the wrong expectations.

    Garry




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    garry parker <nospam@nospam.com> wrote:

    I've not used the 20x80, but I have used the 15x70 and a few different
    10x50 (I have the 10x50 marine).

    No, they will not give you the same as what you get for £1k, but then
    you wouldn't expect that. As entry-level kit they are (IMNSVHO) superb
    VFM -- far better spec than stuff for the same price even 5 years ago.

    But one of several reasons that they are so cheap is that the QC is
    almost non-existent. It is significantly more cost effective with stuff
    like this to have the customer do the QC and simply replace, without
    question, returned items than it is to have decent QC in the factory.

    bright

    That is exactly what you would expect from a pair of parallel-mounted
    80mm f/5 scopes for £170! Even the 80f5 telescopes you can buy come with
    a cap with a 40mm aperture for lunar and bright planets.


    There are *very* few binoculars that are satisfactory on planets. They
    are, quite simply, the wrong tool for the job. However, when it comes to
    things like open clusters, and large nebulae, IMO they are unparalleled.

    Best,
    Stephen

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    Stephen,

    What would you say would be the right tool for the job ?

    I would be interested in observing both plannets and large nebulae. I've
    been considering a pair of strathspey 25 x 100, but I guess they would be no
    more appropriate for plannets than the Swarovski.

    Hmm, not sure if I've breached netiquette, with my response - sorry if I
    have.

    Pete K



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    PeteK <YouHaveToBe@joking.com> wrote:

    In a single binocular? You need something with a fast OTA,
    interchangeable eyepieces, and good enough construction to maintain
    collimation at high magnification. Probably a Miyauchi Saturn is your
    least expensive option.

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    I wrote:

    Duh! Tired. *Slow* OTA!


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    Re : Bino general discussions

    I'd like to say that even the Zeiss 12x56 have inaccurate collimation -
    star comas, and poor star test in general .... BUT it's not enough to spoil
    the overall big picture... as I mention in my impressions of the binos on my
    site, the light transmission is great - the Pleiades really shine out !! I
    have a Helios pair of 15x70s - about £150 and they're fine for the price -
    they just don't feel like £1000 binos, and nor do I expect them to perform
    in a special way.... so I end up being satisfied with all my binos... from
    £150 - £1100 range.

    My next binos will be something like the 20x80 Miyauchi's with 45 deg.
    eyepieces.

    Lastly, I have never been disappointed with a Binocular Astronomy session...
    but I have been disappointed with Telescope sessions.. many times in the
    past... just last week I set up my Orion Optics 10" Newtonian... only to
    find barely any surface markings on Mars visible... such was the seeing
    conditions that night !

    Anyway, ciao
    Roland Herrera
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