beginner info needed about scopes and binoculars

[Laurencelman]

I understand Argos are selling a telescope branded somewhere in the region of
X260.

It retails for £7:50

Since you ask for advice and then complain about those helpful people who offer
it, maybe the Argos scope would suit you needs, whilst still leaving you
£192:50 to spend on accessories!

[Laurencelman]

Patrick Moore has been recorded as saying that the minimum aperture which
should be considered for someone taking up serious amateur astronomy is 6" in a
Newtonian reflector.

I am sure Sir Patrick has ample experience to justify his statement.

Therefore if you want a newtonian reflector of 6" aperture, I have heard many
good comments regarding Orion Optics Telescopes, the Europa range has a 6"
Newtonian.

Again I am no expert but if I were looking a telescope to begin with I think I
would consider something like this, however it is below the £200 budget you
have to play with, unless you can pick up a good second hand one.

I understand that buying second hand telescopes also has pitfalls of which you
must be aware.

Given your budget and the previous advice given by others, I would rather
invest in a good pair of binoculars and put off planetary observations to such
a date when I could afford a telescope which would be suited to this purpose.

Hope this helps.

[Richard]

"Laurencelman" <laurencelman@aol.com> wrote in message
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What is your problem? I get indepth, informative replies from everyone else,
but all you can do is come out with a load of bitter and twisted shite.

[Simon Gartfield]

"Richard" <rtownend@bluespamyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Jzbrb.2122$HM.14814410@news-text.cableinet.net>...

From an unbiased observers position mate you won't get far with your
filthy mouthed outbursts. Go buy yourself a mickey mouse scope and
grow up!!

It's obvious you don't want advice!!

[Laurencelman]

Sorry that you consider Patrick Moore's advice to be bitter and twisted.

I think you need to chill out and relax a bit!!

[Richard]

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Thanks for not seeing reason and backing up the old fool instead of agreeing
with honest and decent comments.

[Bernie]

"Richard" <rtownend@bluespamyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:<Jzbrb.2122$HM.14814410@news-text.cableinet.net>...

Call me old fashioned but I do not think there is call for filthy
language on a site devoted to Astronomy.

Had I used langauage like this in front of my father he would have
taken his belt off and given me a good thrashing!!

I think a gentlemans apology may be in order here!

[Richard]

"Laurencelman" <laurencelman@aol.com> wrote in message
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You weren't giving advice. You just didn't like me and wanted an argument.

[Richard]

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Nor is there a call for Laurencelman to carry out such a superior attitude
on new members of the ng. I thought only he was like this but it seems you
old dinosaurs are as bad as each other.
There's some real unfriendly sorts on the ng's but of all places to find the
most unwelcoming set of old prats, I find it here, a ng which you would
expect some intelligence and constructive conversation. This is a real shame
as I genuinely appreciated the help I was being given. Looks like I'll get
my help from an non UK group in the future.
Miserable sods

[Laurencelman]

Richard I have never even met you. I repeat probably best to consider a 6"
reflector as a minimum scope.

Otherwise binoculars and wait till you can afford a decent telescope.

If this is'nt advice as you claim...well I am sorry.