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    Default Telescope purchase for first time beginner recommendations please?



    Hi, this is my first time here. Im seeking help from someone on purchasing my first telescope to get into this to start with. Something that will be great for the kids also to get them to show them some cool sights from space. Anyway budget wise Im not sure Ive been browsing through ebay since my country does not have Amazon which is even cheaper but Ive seen some neat looking scopes on ebay going from the AUD$50-200 range so I guess I can start there right?

    What I would like to see, well some clear Moon, Jupiter, Saturn, stars etc shots. Just to see them as clearly as possible for the budget. Ive seen some Celestron recommendations but they have so many models out there and at the same time I am not sure if a budget from China model on ebay may do the same thing for a good price as they have gotten some positive reviews from buyers also. These are what I have scene on ebay however if someone has a particular brand and model they recommend please link me name I am happy to check it out

    Celestron Astronomical PowerSeeker 50-A Telescope Refractor Phone Dock 21039-A | eBay

    F70300M 150x Zoom 300*70mm HD Monocular Astronomical Telescope AU! | eBay

    new Reflector Refractive Astronomical Telescope with high-quality accessories | eBay

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    Default Re: Telescope purchase for first time beginner recommendations please?

    Sorry I also found these in used condition which seem like a good price and seem to contain some cool extra accessories, Ive read that the barlow lens is a must have item. Will these items be better than the other scopes?

    Celestron Powerseeker model 60/700 Telescope A=60mm FL=700mm 'As New' | eBay

    Celestron AstroMaster LT-70AZ Telescope + Tripod + Accessories [GREAT CONDITION] | eBay

    Celestron Terrestrial Astronomical Compact Telescope Travel Scope 70x400 21035 | eBay

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    Default Re: Telescope purchase for first time beginner recommendations please?

    None of the scopes you have listed are any good and I wouldn't waste my money on them. I think you are going to have to up the budget to get a useable scope. At this price range, you will do much better with a set of 10x50 (or similar) binoculars. Every astronomer should have a set of binos anyway and they will show you a lot of stuff, seriously.

    A scope is made of two (and sometimes three) components. There is the tube (OTA), the mount, and sometimes electronics. They all cost money and you have to have the first two. That means you have to have a mount and it needs to be stable to use the tube. These little things you are looking at have no stable mount and the tubes are of very low quality. If you want a scope on a tripod, it needs to have slow motion controls to be able to track with your target and robust enough to handle the scope.

    For a scope, your best bet is a 6"-8" Dob. The mount is very simple but also very stable, all of the money goes into the optics. You will not want to look at a scope of less than 80mm aperture in any event.
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    Hello Archangel and welcome to the forums!
    Out of all the scopes that you have linked to the only one that I would consider is the 70mm Celestron Astromaster in your second post.
    The scope is a decent size and the build quality is pretty good for a starter. The mount though it will do to start is not the greatest but can get you out viewing at least.
    The links you posted in your first post are no better than toy scopes and should be avoided, you would be lucky to get decent views of the moon with them.
    Refractors: Antares 105 f/15, Celestron 150 f/8, Stellarvue NHNG 80 f/6.9, TAL 100RS f/10, TS 102 f/11, UR 70 f/10, Vixen SD115s f/7.7
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    Default Re: Telescope purchase for first time beginner recommendations please?

    Ozman13 is right. See if there is an astronomy club in your area and go to one of their events. Take a look at some of the scopes there. Buying a scope sight unseen is fraught with peril. I second the notion of getting some binoculars. While that's not what you want to hear, it's a way to start without spending much, and the binos are useful for other things if the interest wanes.
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    Being a small city compared to most around the world I tried googling it I dont have much to go with locally let alone stores that arent franchised. I did locate an observatory that does tour in evenings which I plan to attend someday and I might ask them some questions and hope they can assist me. Curious if that price range isnt ideal what price range should I be looking for guys? Ive been looking up on barlows that can help also, say for that celestron 70 scope if I attach a barlow to it would it be better? The newtown and starwatcher scopes are pricey searching online to import to Australia but I am curious what will be useful. Saw a youtube clip with amazing saturn and jupiter snaps and the poster said he had a dob 10inch scope which sounded pricey

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    There are a few scope shops close to you and there are quite a few member on the forum from Australia so hopefully some will answer to help you out with the local stuff.
    I found the Celestron 70mm at an Australia shop: https://www.bintel.com.au/product-ca...pes/refractor/
    In some situations a barlow can be useful but I would not worry about accessories until after you have decided on and purchased a scope. This way you will not buy something you will not need.
    A reflector is the cheapest scope with a large aperture and on a dobsonian mount are one of the easiest ways to get into visual astronomy.
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    I'm going to be the 'big refractors guy' here... But based on your budget you might get disappointed... can you bump it to $300? check Orion AstroView 90mm Equatorial Refractor Telescope | Orion Telescopes Also, while maybe way over your budget, check Omni XLT 102 Telescope [item # 21088].. I just got few days ago and I'm living a dream even with my heavily light polluted non-telescope/non-stargazers friendly country/city, it is giving me unbelievable views!

    The extra stuff I bought with the XLT were 1 14mm eyepiece (costed me about $70 because I got it with long eye relief and wide FoV 62degrees), 1 2x barlow lens ($40), 1 1.25" moon filter ($11)
    You can find cheaper eyepieces, but consider the quality of optics if you go for cheaper, this goes for the telescope as well... when I bought my set (telescope and accessories) I wanted to get a good deal that will last me for a long time, so I bumped my budget from $300 to almost $500 and I did not regret it!

    So if you are going for refractors, check the Orion Astroview 90mm, or get even better stuff with Celestron Omni XLT 102...
    If you want reflectors, get a dobsonian..

    For lenses later on, you can go slowly, check the eyepieces that come with the telescope, maybe get a shorter one also and see how it goes from there, if you feel you really want to get things magnified more, get a 2x barlow only, with the 2x barlow you technically doubled the number of your eyepieces, if you still need more, then make sure you don't go beyond the useful magnification of your telescope. For the Omni XLT I have, I will not get any eyepiece shorter than 8mm to be used with my 2x barlow, and if I don't want to use a barlow, I'll get a 5mm or 4mm eyepiece which will never be used with a barlow. But all of this you can know after you know what telescope you will get.

    Good luck with your purchase!

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    Ok thanks for all the tips guys appreciate it. As for going abit more while its $300 in US when converted to aussie dollars searching on ebay and retailers here Ill be looking at around $600 just for the units and that isnt including any barlows to extend the zoom which will add up also. Sad to say it guys searching youtube reviews, amazon reviews and posts here and elsewhere Im guessing bang for the buck money might be good if I go for that Celestron 70 travel scope. Plus it is 35% off from that sealer which makes it better for me. In saying that for a first scope would it be best I get a 2x barlow and not a 3x barlow? I contacted the seller for a list of barlows he sells and these are all he has, not sure if I should go for that kit of scopes or go for a single unit:
    Items in River Centre store on eBay !

    And searching for generic barlows on all stores that deliver to australia I found these, range in price to more expensive they go from about $10 to way way more, happy to go in the hundred range if it helps the scope.
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    You seem to be more interested in a Barlow than the scope it's self. A Barlow is an accessory that most of the time is not even needed and many times not recommended. This hobby is about gathering light, not magnification. A Barlow would be at the bottom of my list.
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