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    Question A beginner needing advice



    Hello,

    As the title suggests I am a beginner. Like most beginners I want to buy the best telescope for myself. I have started reading all the information I can find on telescopes.
    Some of the sources I have read are:

    http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astro...e-a-telescope/
    http://www.skyandtelescope.com/astro...-buying-guide/
    https://www.astronomics.com/why-buy-...lescope_t.aspx
    Understanding Telescopes – Telescopes.com

    I live in a suburban area. This is where I will use it most of the time. On humid nights I can see up to 13 stars when it's full moon.
    What I would like to do with the telescope.

    - See other planets in our solar system. (I don't think the moon is a benchmark since I can see that all the telescopes are capable one way or another)
    - Or some stars on clear nights? If possible...

    Buying a telescope makes me want to travel to places. Once or twice every year I would like to go on a travel to a place where there is no or less light pollution and take the telescope with me.
    - To be able to see deep sky objects like other galaxies, star clusters, binary stars and nebulas.

    My budget only allows me to buy these telescopes mentioned below in my country. I cannot get it shipped from another country because of the high taxes.

    At first I have looked into this one.

    1)Refractor

    BRESSER MESSIER AR-152L/1200 EXOS-2 GOTO HEXAFOC
    BRESSER Messier AR-152L/1200 EXOS-2 GoTo Hexafoc | Bresser

    2)Reflector

    Then for almost at the same price people told me to go with a reflector one because of the aperture size and many other bonuses. I have now 2 options for that.

    Bresser Messier NT-203/1000 Hexafoc EXOS-2 GoTo Telescope | Bresser
    Meade LX70 Reflector, 8" + GoTo


    3)Catadrioptric

    Then with a little bit of research I have read about Catadrioptric telescopes. Honestly this one below seems very easy to travel with. But I have doubts about the quality.

    BRESSER Messier MC-127/1900 EXOS-2 GoTo Telescope | Bresser

    Here on this website:
    https://www.astronomics.com/why-buy-...lescope_t.aspx

    There is a section:

    Code:
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    CATADIOPTRIC REPORT CARDS FOR VISUAL USE
    (used in excellent seeing conditions and with no light pollution; adapted from Astronomy Magazine):
    
    E = excellent; VG = very good; G = good; F = fair; P = poor.
    
    Small aperture (3.5" to 5") Schmidt- and Maksutov-Cassegrains:
    Price range: $500-$4300
    Portability: E
    Ease of setup: VG
    Ease of use: G+
    Performance on the Moon: E
    Performance on comets: F
    Performance on double stars: G
    Performance on galaxies and nebulas: F
    Performance on planets: G
    ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    This is 5" so the performance of this thing on nebulas and galaxies are FAIR. Does that mean that this thing won't see a thing(or won't like what I see) when I try to see some galaxies or nebulas in deep sky with a 5" catadrioptric telescope?


    I think what I want is an all rounder telescope which does a bit of everything and at the same time would not upset a beginner like me with what I see.
    Theoretically I know the differences of aperture size and some other features. But at this price range I do not have the experience and the deep knowledge to compare the catadrioptric and reflector telescopes I mentioned above for the my purpose of use.

    Any help will be appreciated.

    Thanks.
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    Default Re: A beginner needing advice

    an 8 inch SCT is what quite a lot of us would own IF it could only own one scope...big enough to get you seriously into DSO's (and planets etc) but small enough to travel with

    these scopes do everything well BUT nothing fantastic..
    Portability however can range from super easy (The Celestron 8Se and the Meade Lt and LS 8's) to more then one would like to lug outside if you went with a larger GEM .. The Celestron 6/8 Se scopes can be removed from their mount what makes traveling a heck of a lot easier

    My scope that I travel to local star parties etc is an 8i (earlier model of the 8Se) and completely assembled on the tripod and mount and ready to use only weighs 35 pounds.. I originally purchased this scope because I traveled during the work week and stored the scope 24/7 in the trunk of my car for almost 2 years (and 100,000)MILES before I retired ...

    You may want to look into buying a used scope...if money is tight...heck I have owned dozens of scopes and most were purchased used...never felt I was cheated...

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    Default Re: A beginner needing advice

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob327 View Post
    an 8 inch SCT is what quite a lot of us would own IF it could only own one scope...big enough to get you seriously into DSO's (and planets etc) but small enough to travel with

    these scopes do everything well BUT nothing fantastic..
    Portability however can range from super easy (The Celestron 8Se and the Meade Lt and LS 8's) to more then one would like to lug outside if you went with a larger GEM .. The Celestron 6/8 Se scopes can be removed from their mount what makes traveling a heck of a lot easier

    My scope that I travel to local star parties etc is an 8i (earlier model of the 8Se) and completely assembled on the tripod and mount and ready to use only weighs 35 pounds.. I originally purchased this scope because I traveled during the work week and stored the scope 24/7 in the trunk of my car for almost 2 years (and 100,000)MILES before I retired ...

    You may want to look into buying a used scope...if money is tight...heck I have owned dozens of scopes and most were purchased used...never felt I was cheated...

    Bob G
    Do you mean that as a beginner those models above will never satisfy me and I should save money to go for a bigger aperture for catadioptric telescope?

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    Default Re: A beginner needing advice

    Telescopes.... take your time and continue studying. Telescopes have trade-offs; no one is best.

    Of the three telescopes you listed, I would eliminate the 127 MAK, not for quality reasons but because its aperature is on the small side for viewing deep space; especially in a light polluted location.

    The 152mm refractor is a good all-round telescope for both deep space and solar system objects like planets and the moon. Being a refractor it has no central obstructions like Newtonians and catadioptric scopes do so it uses all the light it collects. Its down side is that it will have chromatic abberation on very bright objects. This bothers some people and not others. This telescope will do well for deep space even in your light polluted location. You will see plenty of stars as well as globular and open clusters, galaxies, and nebulae. It will travel better than a Newtonian.

    Either of the two Newtonians you llisted will do very well for deep space even in your light polluted location. Like with the refractor, you will be able to see much more than stars including clusters, galaxies, and nebulae. Because the 203mm (8inch) Newtonians have the largest aperture, they will function better in light pollution. The improvement in views with the 203mm Newtonian verses the 152mm refractor will not be that significant but it will be there just the same. Of the three telescopes you listed, the Newtonian will be the least portable (handling and durability).

    Which is better; the 152mm refractor or the203mm Newtonian? That question has no answer as it depends upon the personal likes and dislikes of each individual. Many people will prefer the 152 mm refractor over the Newtonian but just as many others will perfer the 203mm (8inch) Newtonian. Both sides of this question can make a long list why their selection is better and neither side will be wrong. Regardless of which of these telescopes you choose, you will have an excellent telescope that can serve you well in the years to come.

    In making your choice keep in mind that most of the time you will be viewing at your home and only have two or three nights away in a dark spot. Make sure you don't put too much emphases into portability... keep focused... you will be doing about 90 percent of your viewing in light polluted skies.

    Again, either the 152mm refractor or the 203mm Newtonian will serve you very well even in your light polluted location. You can't go wrong with either one.
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    Default Re: A beginner needing advice

    What about if I go from 5" to 6"
    For example
    Meade LX70 6" Maksutov-Cassegrain.
    What do you think?
    Will it show things similar to Newtonian 8" and 152 refractor?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tarx View Post
    What about if I go from 5" to 6"
    For example
    Meade LX70 6" Maksutov-Cassegrain.
    What do you think?
    Will it show things similar to Newtonian 8" and 152 refractor?
    The Meade looks interesting! Traditionally Mak-Cass's give sharp, high contrast views- and therefore show deep sky objects surprisingly well. Because of the high contrast it would probably give the 8" Newtonian a run for its money despite the smaller aperture. Maks excel at high power views of planets and double stars.

    The difference with the refractor is that the Mak has a much longer focal length, and hence a much smaller field of view. The refractor will give really nice low-power, wide-field views (which the Mak can't do), but it probably wont be as good for planets as the Mak. The refractor will also show a bit more false colour on bright objects than the Mak- especially at higher powers.

    The Mak would certainly be easier to transport than either the refractor or the Newtonian, and the 6" aperture means you will be able to see a lot of objects. However, as has been mentioned, in heavily light-polluted locations you will generally find that more aperture is better.

    If possible I would suggest you have a look through them before you commit to buying!

    All the best,

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    Default Re: A beginner needing advice

    Well there is no limit researching before buying a telescope. I have seen this telescope recommended for beginners on the Internet.
    Would you recommend Celestron 8SE to a beginner?

    NexStar 8SE Computerized Telescope [item # 11069]

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    I had an Nexstar 8SE and I will def. recommend that to any beginner. It is a very nice scope and mount for visual astronomy. And the goto is very accurate in 8SE if you do the initial alignments accurately. It is also very protable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by girimurthy View Post
    I had an Nexstar 8SE and I will def. recommend that to any beginner. It is a very nice scope and mount for visual astronomy. And the goto is very accurate in 8SE if you do the initial alignments accurately. It is also very protable.

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    Thank you for your reply.
    http://www.amazon.com/Celestron-9430...ords=celestron

    Would you recommend this?
    In my country they are very expensive so I want to buy some of them from amazon which is going to be cheaper for me.

    A person recommended Barlow's in the comments which is very expensive.
    http://www.amazon.com/Baader-Planeta...rds=Barlow+6mm

    I would like to ask.
    Would that make that much of a difference to justify it's price?

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    Hi,

    Do not buy these eyepiece sets at the beginning. I would recommend you to wait and then slowly purchase some good optics. I think the nexstar comes with a 25 MM only. In my opinion for a starter just buy a zoom lens like this one
    http://www.amazon.com/Celestron-9323...celestron+zoom

    and a cheap barlow lens like this one
    http://www.amazon.com/Celestron-Omni...ords=barlow+2x

    With the combination of zoom and barlow it will keep you busy for starters. You can then buy other expensive eyepieces later.

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