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    Default Re: F/8.33 telescope a complete waste of money (for me)?



    I give Abb credit for hooking me up with the 16" extension.
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    Default Re: F/8.33 telescope a complete waste of money (for me)?

    Alec, first off, a huge thank-you. Your deliberations about a new scope have nudged the weather Gods and my skies have finally become crystal clear.

    For justification, you need to consolidate your astronomy learning process and learn how to intuitively use and calibrate a GEM mount.

    Naturally this educational sojurn can not take place without all the teaching aids being present.

    Hence the requirement for a quality OTA to place on top of this highly sophisticated and complicated mount.

    Most everyone can use a telescope, all one has to do is look through it, but to master a GEM mount takes a certain amount of dedication and commitment, and without the appropriate tools, this would be difficult indeed.

    Who are we convincing here, you or your better half?

    I've looked at those SW APO's, can only dream, but if you can easily afford one, go for it, you only live once, and what price on mentaly stimulating pleasure?

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    Rich, when you're done with the nice weather gods, PLEASE send them my way...thank you
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    Default Re: F/8.33 telescope a complete waste of money (for me)?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowjiber View Post
    I give Abb credit for hooking me up with the 16" extension.
    Hey John.
    I also give Abb the credit for turning me on to the 16" extension...and the AR102.
    He seems to have a knack for helping me spend my money!

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    Default Re: F/8.33 telescope a complete waste of money (for me)?

    And Alec?
    There is absolutley nothing wrong with spending a little cash on a "want".
    But this is coming from a guy who's goal is to own one of EVERYTHING!!
    *L*
    Get the scope!
    I know you will use and enjoy it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AbbN View Post
    If you WANT it, GET it cause "wants" and "needs" at times can seem like two opposing forces !!!! So what do you "want", a Celestron Omni XLT 120 perhaps (I know a bit about that one ) ?????

    Almost forgot, from my point of view, one can NEVER have too many scopes......especially if they're refractors !!!!
    I agree with AbbN - the ideal number of scopes is at least n+1, where n is the number you have at the moment .

    It's somewhat easier to justify if you're into AP (more framing options ), but refractors have their own magic - there's just something nice about them - and a 120 will give you more light grasp over the 102, and it's always handy to be able to use an EQ mount.

    Refractors are a bit like eyepieces -you only use one at a time (*) but it's nice to have a set .

    (*) unless you get a t style mount. Then you can use two at once .
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    Default Re: F/8.33 telescope a complete waste of money (for me)?

    Thanks guys for the kind words And you're right Jerry, there's something "magical" about refractors and I honestly can't put my finger on what it is but I prefer the views through them than my Dob. Perhaps some of that magic lies in the fact that I've managed to get three fairly decent refractors starting with the 1st one I bought, the 120 XLT. If it had been a bad scope who knows where I be in this hobby or what I'd have......

    For fear of motivating the bad weather gods, I won't mention any of my "wants" at this time but use your imaginations

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    Default Re: F/8.33 telescope a complete waste of money (for me)?

    Alec- I have bad news for you. That F/8 refactor isn't what you need. What you really need is a AR 127mm from Explore Scientific Europe. Or if the wallet can handle it the 127mm ED. The 120-130mm range is the sweet spot for refractors and ES makes a product that hits the sweet spot for the eye as well as the wallet.

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    Amusing range of price cuts - €500 off the Mak newt - pretty good on a €1700 scope - and a mind boggling €0.02 - two whole cents - off the AR152 .

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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrucker View Post
    " Or if the wallet can handle it the 127mm ED."
    I really like the way you think!
    Listen to him Alec!! *L*

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