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    Ok so I will be buying an Orion XT8 soon, it comes with a 25mm plossl eyepiece.

    Would it be a good idea also along with it to buy a 2x barlow for 96x magnification when i need it? and later on i was planning on buying an Orion Epic ED 7.5mm eyepiece for high mag 160x. so i would have 25mm 48x, medium mag 96x (with barlow), and high mag 160x with a Orion Epic ED 7.5mm eyepiece. is this a good way to go? Or should i get maybe 14 or 18mm for the orion epic's for a wider view much better than a plossl?

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    My suggestion because I get the feeling that you are rather new to both your scope and to astronomy is to "invest" in one of the Eyepiece kits sold by Celestron, Meade, and Zhumell)... Most of us usually recommend NOT buying one of these kits BUT I personally (after being in this hobby for over 50 years) think they are a very very cheap EDUCATION... The quality of the eyepieces is fine, quite usable, nothing special and definitely not junk BUT they will allow you to learn what you like to look at, what seems to work in your scope, and what you need out of eyepieces... The Celestron kit has 4 or 5 eyepieces, a barlow, a moon filter and a nice case...For the cost ($150.00 or so) I just think it is a CHEAP investment as an educational tool ...

    That said My money is on the table betting that after a year you will have replaced most of the individual eyepieces in the kit for ones with more eye relief, wider fields of view etc.. The colored filters will be in the trash can but you will use the moon filter, the case and most likely the barlow for years to come...

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    Bob offers a good suggestion to get started with. Do you have access to an astronomy club or star parties? The variables in optics are many, and I have found that being able to borrow eyepieces from fellow observers has helped tremendously in obtaining what works best for me. A decent barlow is always a good choice, as it "doubles" your magnification choices.
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    my suggestion is a baadeer hyperion zoom at his moment is one of the best deal $250 us or less with an excelent quality compared with other zooms in the market also you have variable zoom from 7 to 24mm with 60-80 FoV for me was an excellent investment, it doesnt use a lot of space with number of eyepiece, y save money and a lot of confort during observation to dont be changing eyepiece...

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    Quote Originally Posted by afigueroa View Post
    my suggestion is a baadeer hyperion zoom
    Ditto! At $215, it's a great all purpose zoom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by afigueroa View Post
    my suggestion is a baadeer hyperion zoom
    Will 3rd the Hyperion zoom, I've read many posts by XT8 owners being very happy using the zoom on their scope.

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    Also, just be warned that the Epic-Ed line is a peculiar ep. People either love them or hate them. I have never used them, but from what I've read they give very nice views but are difficult to use or get used to. Eye placement is touchy, otherwise you get blackouts or kidney beans (partial black outs). Black outs are situations where the FOV suddenly goes dark. Other designs are far less particular about how you look through them.

    If you don't want to go the ep set route, then you would do well to perhaps get 2 decent plossls and a barlow. This will give you 4 effective magnifications. The 25mm is a very good general purpose low power ep. Barlowed, you get 96X and an exit pupil of 2mm. This is near ideal for general DSO use. For more detailed study of DSO's, an exit pupil of about 1.5mm is advantageous. You can get this with an ep of around 9mm (about 133X). Barlow that one and you have a very useful planetary and lunar combination. So, all you really need to add would be a 9mm plossl (give or take a bit, i.e., the Meade 9.4 plossl is a good choice) and a decent barlow (Orion shorty plus or Celestron Ultima get high marks. I've also been happy with my Meade #126).

    Oh...you might also consider the Enhanced Super Wides from Owl Astronomy (same as Orion's Expanse line). They offer a 9mm FL that has a 66 degree FOV. It sells for about the same price as a plossl.

    Hope that helps.
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    Thanks craig, you gave a lot of insight about which way to go for EP's, and thank you all for your help, ill start looking around again at EP's !!

    found this, Meade Series 5000 9mm Plössl Eyepiece #07651, only $69 =D
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    The Meade 5000 plossl is a decent ep, but sometimes I wonder if it's the best deal. Again, I've never looked through one but the reviews I've read have been mixed. (This is primarly in edge performance, that is, how things look at the edge of the ep. Center or on axis performance is fine.). Fit and finish on the 5000 line is also very good.

    astronomics.com has a line of ep called the paradigm (from astro-tech). These are excellent ep and sell for $60, same FOV as the Meade 5000 plossls. Between the two the Paradigm is probably the better ep as it has gotten excellent reviews. I own the 12mm version and have been pleased with it's performance. I actually like it better then the Orion Stratus line (even though the FOV is a bit more narrow). (It did take a little getting used to, as it also tended to some blackouts when I first used it, so maybe on the other hand it might not be the best choice if you're just starting out, but the images were very nice). The Paradigm doesn't have a 9mm, but they do offer an 8mm.

    You might also consider the GSO line of plossls from agenaastro.com. Their 9mm plossl is $30 and is a very good mainstream ep. (GSO makes ep for many of the "name" brands...notice how similar they look to Celestron's Omni's? ).

    Hope that helps a bit .
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    another vote for GSO's and agena astro. They have a good selection and pricing. I've used a couple of GSO's with my 10" f4.7 reflector, and was very pleased.
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