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    I have a celestron and I have both the 2" and 1.25 eps. Now I do remember from my old Meade telescope days, reading about how superior the Meade eps were from a whole host of different opinions. Is this still the case?

    And now for the real inexperienced question.....could I use Meade eps in my Celestron scope or are they NOT inter changeable between makers? I ask this because in photography my Canon lens are not usable on Nikon cameras. With lens you really get what you pay for. The eps are fine, but I would like to build up over time good quality eps also.
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    Yes you can use your Meade eyepieces (if they are 1.25 or 2" eyepieces in your Celestron scope) and you can use any other brand of eyepieces in your scope...

    I can not say that Meade EP are better then Celestron or that Zhumels are better then the Meades .

    IN GENERAL you basically get what you pay for ...

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    I think Bob is right, you get what you pay for. There are so many different types of EPs on the market today, and so many different qualities within brand names, that I don't think I would choose a particular brand name. I think I would try to research each EP and match it with the types of viewing I wanted to do. EPs are expensive. When I bought my most recent one, I took time to talk to a customer representative, then bounce it off other members of the forum. It took me a long time to decide. When I finally made my decision, I chose one that balanced cost with my needs. It wasn't the best I could have purchased, nor was it the cheapest I could get by with. It isn't perfect, but it did what I wanted at a cost I could live with.

    There is another option. Sever of the EPs I have, were purchased used. I didn't risk a lot of money, and still expanded my equipment.
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    Quite a few years ago, say in the late 80's, the magazine ads were sprinkled with $20-40 eyepieces. Honourably, the sellers described them accurately. These were two and three element Huygens and Kellner eyepieces of the type that were holdovers from department store telescopes of the 50's and 70''s. They may have been top drawer in 1920, but they were flogging them at that price because they had little value or utility compared with the better Plossl eyepieces being marketed at the time. Even the vaunted Orthoscopic eyepieces were falling out of disfavour.

    When I purchased my first large scope in 1989, I had already purchased an eyepiece I felt would be a welcome addition to the two that Celestron provided with the Ultima 11", and those were 17 and 32 mm Plossls. The one I purchased was a Meade Ultra-Wide Angle 8.8 mm. I spent enough on it such that a tight wad of $20 bills would have choked a horse. I have had few good views with it, as marvellous an eyepiece as it clearly is.

    Later, I purchased an Ultima series 60 mm from Shutan in Chicago. I walked in on a tour of the state and paid cash. It wasn't as much as the Meade, but still $220 or so...US dollars, too (that was like $300 CDN!). It, too, is a marvellous chunk of enjoyment.

    So, as the others are initmating, you only get what you pay for in terms of accessories. You can find some $40 eyepieces here and there, but they won't perform like $280-400 eyepieces...no way.

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    Harry Siebert turns out very high quality oculars in his backyard shop in rural North Carolina. He brags about them on his website, and, from my personal experience, his boasts have substance. Probably the best bang for the buck in the market today.

    As one can expect, he is pretty busy, and makes his products to order, so it takes a while, but the wait is worth it.

    Here is his 30mm Ultra beside my no-name 25mm plossl. It will be getting first starlight in a few minutes.

    Edit: First light; Pointed at Aldebaran. Red dot finder was a bit off, but the arrowhead in the Hyades was there in it's entirety, and crisp to the field stop, which I could see easily with the rubber rolled up, and my glasses not touching it. All my other eyepieces need the rubber rolled down, and I can't always see the field stop. I can see using this eyepiece a lot.

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    IMO; There are a few exceptions but most EP's are made in China, Korea, Japan , Mexico or some other country.
    When you buy a "higher quality" EP you get better quality control so you probably won't get a "lemon".
    I started by buying a lot of cheap ($40 to $60) EP's. Now that I have a better idea of what I realy use I am replacing the cheap ones with better ones. ($80 to $220)
    All IMO; Don T.

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    I spent a lot of time on eyepieces, searching the internet, reading reviews, checking out store displays and most important talking to members of my club.
    I settled on Baader Hyperions. Made in Germany, not too expensive. They are not perfect, but then you get what you pay for and for the price they are pretty darn good.
    Anyway, this is not a hyperion infomercial, What I really wanted to say was that your best bet is to go to star parties and try eyepieces, that club members have, in your scope.

    As far as Meade, Celestron, Orion, Baader and many other brands to numerous to mention are concerned, I think the style is a more important comparison. Compare Plossl's to Plossl's, for example, do not pick up a Meade Plossl and a Celestron Kellner, then turn around and say all Celeston eyepieces suck. Most common eyepieces are made in China, under similar conditions, making them so very similar in build quality that rookies like I could not see the difference. You can spend a ton of money on eyepieces so be careful.
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    I'm with Kevin on the Baader Planetarium Hyperion EP's. They are a very good compromise EP between price and quality. They are high quality, near Televue standards, but at about half the price.

    Another one of my favorites in the same category would be William Optics. I have found their SPL and SWAN EP's to be very good quality and providing great visuals, but without the exorbitant price of Televue EP's.

    There are many more quality EP's out there, and Meade, Orion and Celestron all have higher end EP's that are good quality as well. Ultimately it comes down to price vs performance vs personal taste and finding the right combination for you.

    P.S. I'm not plugging Hayneedle (telescopes.com). Their site just had the EP's in close proximity to each other and I figured would be easier for you to see what was available and for what price range.

    P.P.S. Thanks for the tip on Harry Siebert EP's Pierre! I'll have to check them out. Had never heard of them before. Thanks!
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