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    Hello all, first post here.

    Ive had an Orion XT8 for a about 4 years but it hasnt been used much due to the light pollution around my area and never getting around to the countryside where its darker. I have only the 2 plossl eyepieces that orion sends with the telescope, the very cheap 1.25" 10mm and 26mm.

    My question is, if I get one or two of the meade 2" superwide or ultrawide 5000 series eyepieces, will it be like day and night, a whole new scope? Or will it be subtle differences?

    I was considering spending the cash on a 16" lightbridge or 14" XX14i in the somewhat near future, but Im wondering if just greatly upgrading my eyepieces would be a great change in viewing quality in itself?

    Also another thing I was curious about... What would be a larger improvement in viewing ability/quality: going from an XT8 to an XT12 with the crappy stock eyepieces, or staying on an XT8 and upgrading the crap eyepieces to top of the line series 5000 meade eyepieces?

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    Hi Joey ...Welcome aboard the forums ...Thanks for joining up and jumping in ...I live in a red zone and i use my 8in scope all the time ... How many stars can you see with the naked eye where you live ? A red zone is bad for viewing but it can be done ...I can make out the orion nebula with some of my meade 4000 series 2in. EP's if that helps ...I also have some of the series 5000 EP's as well but i like the 4000's as much ...Nice and bright views even in a red zone ...Dark sites are few and far between here in northern va. but when we go , it is amazing with 8in. of scope and nice eyepieces ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by roverich View Post
    Hi Joey ...Welcome aboard the forums ...Thanks for joining up and jumping in ...I live in a red zone and i use my 8in scope all the time ... How many stars can you see with the naked eye where you live ? A red zone is bad for viewing but it can be done ...I can make out the orion nebula with some of my meade 4000 series 2in. EP's if that helps ...I also have some of the series 5000 EP's as well but i like the 4000's as much ...Nice and bright views even in a red zone ...Dark sites are few and far between here in northern va. but when we go , it is amazing with 8in. of scope and nice eyepieces ...
    I can see a good bit from where I am, not a red zone, but definitely not a dark site, especially with all the damn street lamps!

    Which 5000 series do you have? I was considering the superwide as the ultrawide is a little too pricey. Id assume that the quality of the SW and UW is about the same? Also, with wide angle eyepieces such as these, is it really like "looking out a window"? Can you have too much FOV?

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    I have some of the 5000 plossls and some of the 4000 wide angles ...On my 8in sct there is some kidny beaning with the 5000 40mm but with the series 4000 wide angles , it is like looking out a window ..I have a 26mm and 30mm 2in 4000's ...
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    Oh Yea , One more thing ...Those 5000 series eyepieces are heavy ....As are most quality 2in stuff ...
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    Ah, well hopefully the 5000 SW doesnt have the kidney beaning, plus I wouldnt go past 32-36mm range which helps I think (especially for a fast dob)?

    Weight is not a issue as counterweights are easily installed!

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    Yea , my 8in. is a F-10 ....
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    Personally I would keep your 8" Dob...its a pretty darn good scope and is plenty big enough to get you seriously into DSO's ..IF I were going to upgrade it I would spend my money on a 10" Orion Dob with the COL since you are in a light polluted area this will help you find those clusters etc...

    If you go the eyepiece route (that is what I personally would do) I'd look at the Baader Hyperions...really hard to beat and they sure are not expensive...

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    I agree with Bob,.,get a few Baader EPs,.,even if you decide to get another scope in the future,. you will have a good EP to put in it ,.,O+O

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    Thanks for the advice, all. So the hyperions are of similar quality to meade 5000's? Or are you just syaing they are a better value for what you pay?

    Bob327, I couldnt justify spending the relatively large sum of money on a 10" dob just for 2 extra inches! But you are right, I think maybe even just buying a COL for my XT8 would be a good idea, and I definitely need to find a dark site.

 

 
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