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    Default New Telescope Eyepieces for Beginner - Celestron Set?



    Once we are on the subject of eyepieces, I've read the forums and I know that the suggestion is to not buy more ep's till you have used your original eyepieces for a while then you can jump into some other sizes, my question though is on orions website, where I bought my XT8i, I noticed they have a celestron set of 5 eyepieces, a 2x Barlow, moon filter, and various other filters for $140 us dollars. I want to get a Barlow and the moon filter and was thinking about the different filters for planets, which separately come out for 120 dollars, so if I would buy the set I would get what I want plus some extra ep's, sounds great but my question is. Is it to good to be true? Are these ep's cheap? Does anyone here have a celestron set, are they ok. Will I as a newb, notice any difference? Just don't wanna buy a case full of low quality stuff that I will not use. So should I buy separately, or as the set? And to answer the question the separate ones, are the ones made or promoted by Orion (example Orion 2x shorty Barlow). Thanks for any advice on the matter.
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    If you wear glasses, eye relief is a big consideration, as I have found empirically. Personally, I would go with the (presumably) better quality stuff.
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    Hi Ebidar,
    I thought about getting the Celestron set as well it is a great set, but I realized I may want to get some eyepieces, and a barlow which would double my eyepiece set theoretically. I didn't spend as much as the Celestron set, and got a case, and 3 eyepieces and a barlow. However, if you can find the Celestron set for cheap, don't mind the limited view, 1.25"'s, and can find it for a good price then it is a good deal.

    Also of note, if one has a telescope of around $1000 or less, similar to my scopes, I dont think one benefits much from spending $500 or more on expensive eyepieces and barlow especially when you can use a lot of that money to get a better telescope later on, and the quality of expensive eyepieces may be somewhat wasted on cheaper telescopes. The Celestron set for moderate to budget cost telescopes is a good set (almost complete even has some color filters) and doesn't break the bank.

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    I would say listen to Gus. He has been at this a lot longer than me.
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    lol i actually havent been doing this for that long, but i agree good eyepieces do improve things a lot especially after i purchased my poor mans wideview GSO superview eyepiece. 2", 72 degree views and less than $40 American including taxes. not too bad for a budget eyepiece. From what I remember the Celestron eyepieces were not as good in view / angle as the GSO superviews or similar wide angle eyepieces. The only thing as WWPierre mentioned, is that 2" eyepiece are quite heavy. I had issues last night with mine, and they were giving me balance problems with my 2" barlow.

    however if you havent seen through expensive eyepieces and you want to save money, dont look through them!
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    Hi ebidar,

    I got the celestron set when i bought my nexstar 5se so i could have more ep combos than just the 25mm that came with the scope.I am quite impressed with the build quality of all the items in the set and the case keeps everything safe.
    I haven't used the 4 and 6mm eps much( they are quite small to look through) only to look at the moon. The filters haven't had much use either although i have used them looking at the moon and the sun(through a proper filter of course). The 32mm gets a lot of use as it gives very nice and bright views when initially looking for objects to view then i swap for the 9,15,25mm eps or i put the 2xbarlow in.
    As the guys have already stated you could get some eps and barlow plus filters for your exact needs by looking around and now with more expereince i would do exactly that myself but at the time i got the set i was a super newbie and didn't know about eye relief and wide field and all the other stuff that goes with it.
    It's all down to you.......i was happy with my purchase and still am.

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    Thanks Adey for your input here, I agree its a great set to immediately get everything you need to start viewing the heavens
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    Wow a lot of info and good advice. I'm thinking that I will get this set, probably in a month, I barely got my scope so probably throw the cost to next months budget, lol. Thank you all for your help.
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    Hi Ebdbar ... I would think you could buy a couple of eyepieces to compliment the eyepieces that came with your scope .....A Barlow will double the EP's that you have already ...Add few to the one or two you have with a Barlow and it will be like 6 eyepieces ..The sets the major brand name company's sell are usually plossl which have real small exit glass and it is kind of like looking through a soda straw ..Real uncomfortable for me ..I bought some of these when i was starting out and still have them but they don't get used at all ...
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    Here's the difference between my 10mm plossl and my Celestron Zoom. I can get the same views, but the zoom has more eye relief and is hence more comfortable.
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