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    Default Erecting Lens for Kids Skywatcher Infinity 76 Telescope



    Hello - I'm total newbie in the world of telescopes and have just ordered a children's Skywatcher Infinty 76, after realising a 114 or 130mm telescope would probably be a bit over-tech for a 5 year old!

    Anyway - I purchased the Infinity 76, after reading very good reviews and seems to be a very good price for a "non-toy" telescope. But after purchasing there appear to be 2 slightly different versions.

    My attempt to grasp the difference seems to be that one comes with 10x and a 30x erecting lens for terrestrial viewing and the other has a single fixed eyepiece for space/sky viewing? But both are essentially 30x magnification?

    I was going to include links to the 2 versions - but am not allowed as this is my fist post - in case I'm a spam-bot! So instead I'll quote the spec:

    Sky-Watcher Infinity 76P
    Type Parabolic Newtonian Reflector Telescope
    Primary mirror 76mm
    Focal length (tele) 300
    Eyepiece 30x Erecting
    Magnification 10x
    Weight (g) 0


    Sky-Watcher Infinity-76 3, De-luxe Reflector Telescope
    Type Reflector
    Primary mirror 76mm
    Focal length (tele) 300
    Max aperture (tele) f4
    Eyepiece Fixed eyepiece
    Magnification 30x
    Weight (g) 0



    Both from warehouseexpress com

    My main worry would be will we be able to get decent views of the moon and stars etc with the cheaper one using the erecting eyepiece? I assume you can still use the erecting eyepiece for moon viewing etc?

    Any help gratefully received!

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    Hi P/Dog

    Most importantly welcome to the forum.

    The five post thing is there for a reason, we now know that you aren't spamming, but unfortunately there has to be some control else the whole thing degenerates rapidly in spite of genuine people like yourself. I am sure that you can understand this.

    The little ball mount scopes for the younger ones are great starters and are surprisingly good to look through.

    The erect image issue really only applies for terrestrial viewing, you can see the moon and the two big planets (saturn and jupiter) either way, plus a lot more stars than you figured were there to be seen

    Astro scopes show everything in reverse/terrestrial scopes show everything right way up. We prefer our scopes in "astro" mode as there is less glass for the light to travel through and so we get clearer images, but at the end of the day, in a little scope like this for a keen kid, I doubt that that will make much difference.

    I must say that it is refreshing to see a parent keen enough to want to buy a young person something a little better than a toy store piece of what I can only describe as junk.

    Don't hesitate to ask more if you need to

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    Thanks for your reply Vinnie!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post
    The five post thing is there for a reason, we now know that you aren't spamming, but unfortunately there has to be some control else the whole thing degenerates rapidly in spite of genuine people like yourself. I am sure that you can understand this.
    No problems! I also post on a few other forums - and think this would be a really good idea for those which are afflicted by annoying spam!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post
    The erect image issue really only applies for terrestrial viewing, you can see the moon and the two big planets (saturn and jupiter) either way, plus a lot more stars than you figured were there to be seen
    Yeah - I also have a cheap set of binoculars and am amazed at the the amount of "stars in-between" the stars, if you catch my drift! Boggles the mind!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post
    Astro scopes show everything in reverse/terrestrial scopes show everything right way up. We prefer our scopes in "astro" mode as there is less glass for the light to travel through and so we get clearer images, but at the end of the day, in a little scope like this for a keen kid
    Thanks - I'm sure that will be absolutely fine for my littl'uns!

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post
    I must say that it is refreshing to see a parent keen enough to want to buy a young person something a little better than a toy store piece of what I can only describe as junk
    Thanks again! I know the common theory seems to be get some decent binoculars, but I'm hoping I'll be able to help set up the scope pointing at the moon and for her to be able to "carefully" look through the eyepiece. Avoiding 5 year old wobbly hand syndrome on the binoculars.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vinnie View Post
    Don't hesitate to ask more if you need to
    Thanks! Here's another! What kind of view of the moon etc are we likely to get with 30x magnification?

    Oh - and to be completely honest, I'm hoping to be able to use this telescope myself as a starting point for really getting into astronomy a little more!

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    Hi pigdog.

    I've had a look at SkyWatcher's UK importer's site (optical vision)
    And they only list one version on their site - and that one has the erecting eyepiece.
    A 'parabolic' mirror too, which is a BIG plus-point in a 76mm reflector
    Optical Vision Ltd - Skywatcher Infinity-76
    Also - looking around some other dealers, there seem to be offers on the Infinity 76 at many of them.

    I suspect the two listings at Warehouse Express probably reflect (pun intended - LOL) the 'before' and 'after' prices - and that you'd get the same scope no matter which one you order.

    Actually - I spotted it EVEN CHEAPER at a dealer I have used in the past, and found to be reliable....
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    I have a nephew who is beginning to show an interest in astronomy - and at that price, I'm VERY tempted to buy one for his upcoming birthday
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    Thanks Carlos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_dfc View Post
    I suspect the two listings at Warehouse Express probably reflect (pun intended - LOL) the 'before' and 'after' prices - and that you'd get the same scope no matter which one you order.
    That's kind of what I suspect (hope!) - I phoned to check and they mentioned the "deluxe" one was from about 2 years ago - and sounded a little confused! They're contacting the UK supplier to confirm. Very helpful dealer though!

    Quote Originally Posted by Carlos_dfc View Post
    Actually - I spotted it EVEN CHEAPER at a dealer I have used in the past, and found to be reliable....
    acecameras web address
    Wow - wish I'd spotted that! £27 and I could've popped down there - it's just down the road from me! Would've been nice to buy from a physical shop - maybe get some handy hints!

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    Hi again P.D.

    I just deleted two of your posts as the same one came up three times. Don't know why, doesn't matter, not a problem.

    As Carlos has pointed out, that little scope is parabolic, which is a big plus, and actually surprising for a cheapie.

    At 30x through a 76mm tube you'll get a good view of Lunar detail, and you will be able to see that there are rings around Saturn, although they will be small, and you will be able to see the four "G's" that is the four big moons of Jupiter, plus some of the big DSO's like the Pleiades, the Orion Nebula, the Andromeda Galaxy etc. No they won't be breathtaking, but you will see them.

    Actually for whom you want this scope, it seems to be a very good choice.

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    Well - it arrived this morning - so I may try to give it a test run tonight, when the kids are in bed! Don't want to spoil the birthday surprise!

    Thanks for all the help - lunar detail and any view of planets sounds good!

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