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    Default My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser



    I have been increasingly drawn to chasing down nebulas. I blame the Great Orion Nebula. M42 can be seen any winter night, even in the face of significant LP in the suburbs, but I'm motivated to see more of the much less conspicuous nebula. Up until just last week, I confess to only occasionally (and barely) observing the nebula surrounding some of the main stars within M45 without the use of any filter.

    A recent post by one of our most experienced visual observers on AF has pushed that inspiration.
    Eridanus Loop, Sh2-205, and Abell 31 through binoculars on the 27th February, 2019
    (Thanks again, JG - I'm going to treat this as my new nebula shopping list while Orion's constellation is still with us).

    So, I have bought a 25 mm Televue plossl to take advantage of gaining the best exit pupil for the job, using my fast Newtonian (25 mm fl/ 4.7 fl = 5.3 mm exit pupil), in combination with a Lumicon UHC filter. The narrow-ish field of view may be actually an advantage in allowing isolation of the smaller nebula, away from the glow of very bright stars, such as Altinak, in Orion.

    One thing I like, the Lumicon 1.25" filter screws all the way into the seat of this EP, eg, it fits beyond one or two turns, unlike almost all of the cheaper plossls that I own. I'd like to try now a Baader blue(RGB)CCD filter to allowing for nebular light while cutting skyglow and light pollution. Yet another possibility - the NPB filter by Omega Optical.






    Here is the link of the test results of the NPB filter.

    http://karmalimbo.com/aro/reports/Te...0NPB%20DGM.pdf

    I'd be interested to hear whether anyone has tried them.

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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    Good luck and enjoy the hunting
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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    Interesting report. I've not tried them. I've gotten very happy with the Baader H beta CCD (8.5 nm) filter. I'm finding that the narrower filters give better results.

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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    Great choice, Ian. The TV plossl's never disappoint me. The throughput and contrast are top of the line. Some folks balk at he narrower FOV, but many times, as you noted, I find it beneficial. Perhaps the 20mm next, to tweak that exit pupil and contrast just a tad?

    Here is a little graph comparing the NPB to others in its class: http://www.karmalimbo.com/aro/pics/filters/narrow.jpg
    It's a great nebula filter, but I have never compared it directly with the Lumicon. Of all the current offerings, and admittedly after somewhat limited testing, I currently prefer the TeleVue Nebustar II. Compared directly to the Astronomik offering, I feel it offers "slightly" better rendering. Probably due to a steeper cutoff at the red end of the spectrum.
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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    Hello Ian,

    as you already have the Lumicon UHC which is very good, other UHC filters, including the NPB, will not yield enough improvement to justify a purchase, regardless of the costs.

    Should you suffer from high levels of LP, you won't come around the Astrodon OIII, I also have for the very difficult nebulas, https://optcorp.com/products/an-oiii...ilter-1-25inch
    This filter has offered me the first time view of the Crescent Nebula in Cygnus under not very good observing conditions.
    Your 10" Newton has just enough aperture for this extremely narrow filter with the exit pupils in the range 5mm - 7mm.

    Under the suburban skies, the Baader visual 10nm OIII filter is the 100% proven choice, allowing also to magnify more, https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop...10-nm-HWB.html
    I have three pieces of this filter a pair in 1.25", and a single in 2".

    So, depending on how you feel about your LP, I would choose the one or another OIII.

    Otherwise, your Tele Vue Plössl 25mm eyepiece excells in disciplines of transmissivity and contrast, congratulations!

    Best,

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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    Congrats on the new glass Ian! I am with JG. You already got a nice quality narrow band filter. Getting NPB would be more of the same. You should consider OIII and H-betta instead.

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    I agree with the others, a nice 10nm or lower Oiii would be a very nice compliment to the UHC. Hb would be beneficial on horsehead though. Decisions...decisions...
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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    Thanks I - the report is a good read.
    I have the 2" DGM NPB filter - It does work well, though I tend not to use it that much - as I tire of taking it on & off during a session.
    I need to plan better with it and & keep it installed on the ep I use for final viewing. Star hopping with a narrow band filter in place
    is a bit of a challenge. I also have the Lumicon UHC in 1 1/4". To my eye there isn't a lot of difference - mostly in price & depends on
    if you prefer red Green stars.

    A good general info page:
    https://www.prairieastronomyclub.org...p-sky-objects/

    A thread started back in '15 if you have some time there is some great input from our resident experts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j.gardavsky View Post
    Hello Ian,

    as you already have the Lumicon UHC which is very good, other UHC filters, including the NPB, will not yield enough improvement to justify a purchase, regardless of the costs.

    Should you suffer from high levels of LP, you won't come around the Astrodon OIII, I also have for the very difficult nebulas, https://optcorp.com/products/an-oiii...ilter-1-25inch
    This filter has offered me the first time view of the Crescent Nebula in Cygnus under not very good observing conditions.
    Your 10" Newton has just enough aperture for this extremely narrow filter with the exit pupils in the range 5mm - 7mm.

    Under the suburban skies, the Baader visual 10nm OIII filter is the 100% proven choice, allowing also to magnify more, https://www.teleskop-express.de/shop...10-nm-HWB.html
    I have three pieces of this filter a pair in 1.25", and a single in 2".

    So, depending on how you feel about your LP, I would choose the one or another OIII.

    Otherwise, your Tele Vue Plössl 25mm eyepiece excells in disciplines of transmissivity and contrast, congratulations!

    Best,

    JG
    Thanks JG, the Baader OIII sounds great. I really appreciate your advice!


    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzmey View Post
    Congrats on the new glass Ian! I am with JG. You already got a nice quality narrow band filter. Getting NPB would be more of the same. You should consider OIII and H-betta instead.
    Makes sense, Andrey, I'm kind of glad I asked too.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpyderwerX View Post
    I agree with the others, a nice 10nm or lower Oiii would be a very nice compliment to the UHC. Hb would be beneficial on horsehead though. Decisions...decisions...
    Always. I spent too much time dreaming about the next piece of hardware. Thank you Frankie.

    Quote Originally Posted by sketrip View Post
    Thanks I - the report is a good read.
    I have the 2" DGM NPB filter - It does work well, though I tend not to use it that much - as I tire of taking it on & off during a session.
    I need to plan better with it and & keep it installed on the ep I use for final viewing. Star hopping with a narrow band filter in place
    is a bit of a challenge. I also have the Lumicon UHC in 1 1/4". To my eye there isn't a lot of difference - mostly in price & depends on
    if you prefer red Green stars.

    A good general info page:
    https://www.prairieastronomyclub.org...p-sky-objects/

    A thread started back in '15 if you have some time there is some great input from our resident experts.
    2" Filters- DGM Optics

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    Best of luck I - Happy Hunting!
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    Default Re: My new EP - I dub thee Nebula Chaser

    The Big 25 TV Plossl has always been one of my favourite EP's. My Lumicon UHC and OIII filters also thread nicely onto my 25mm TV. Which, quite frankly, has always intrigued me considering how weird Lumicon threads are lol.
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