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    Default Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces



    This is just a quick recap of my experiences with the Svbony Ultra-Wide Angle, Long Eye-relief eyepieces. I’ve tried the older gold line and the new red line, both in 9mm. The main online seller is an honest person and sent me the gold line when I mentioned having trouble with the red line. He told me to keep the red line. Anyway, fit and finish of both is very good, with the new red line a little nicer. It has rubber around the barrel for a better grip. Optics appear to be similar in both, and they come with covers. Unfortunately, both suffer from severe kidney bean blackouts in my f8.3 refractor. They can’t be used for daytime observing. At night, I’ve found both to be usable if I set my eye tight to the eyecup. This kind of defeats the purpose of long eye-relief, and my eyeglass-wearing brother couldn’t use either one. With my eye sitting close, I’d get fleeting but beautiful views of Jupiter and the moon! A different scope might work better with these 9mm eyepieces. I think the problem is with the short focal lengths. These eyepieces, in 15 or 20mm, will likely be much better. I’d rate the optics very good for casual viewing. I like the view better than I get from my best plossls. So, for the money, I’d say you can’t go wrong with these eyepieces, but I’d stick with the longer focal lengths offered. I’d be interested in your opinions if you’ve tried either of these eyepieces.
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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    No comments on the SvBony eyepieces, but you statement about eye relief did remind me of my Speers-WALER eyepieces.
    WALER standing for Wide Angle Long Eye Relief if you consider 10 to 15mm long eye relief...
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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    I have the whole set (6, 9, 15, 20mm) of these EPs. They are sold under many brands and better known as the Expanse set. My experience matches yours. 6mm and 9mm are very sensitive to eye placement and suffer from kidney beans and blackouts. I can use them with my glasses on, but have to press glasses lens against the rubber top. I found 15mm and 20mm much more comfortable.

    I agree, that for the price they can make a descent starter or star party set, in particular 15mm and 20mm.
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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    Are these the same as the old Skywatcher 66 eyepieces Bigzmey?
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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabby76 View Post
    Are these the same as the old Skywatcher 66 eyepieces Bigzmey?
    Yes, they also go by UWA, SWA and EWA.

    They are of modified Konig design. 6mm and 9mm have additional nose peice element (likely barlow) to achive shorter FL.

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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    In that case I do actually have comments on them but this is a family orientated forum....
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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabby76 View Post
    In that case I do actually have comments on them but this is a family orientated forum....
    I went back and checked some comments (lots and lots on CN). Feedback goes from "most comfortable" to "unusable", some like 6mm and 9mm and trash 15mm and 20mm, and some go the other way.

    I still feel that for the price ($20+ on eBay) they are step up from EPs bundled with starter scopes and not bad as beginner or star party pieces.

    I keep the set in my truck in case god forbid I forget my EP case for the dark site trip. Last weekend I almost forgot the mount.

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    Default Re: Svbony Long Eye-relief Eyepieces

    I purchased a set when they first came out and mine were unusable unfortunately. Severe kidney beaning from all of them. More than likely a QC issue at the factory considering the reviews you found.
    I do not have an issue using short eye relief pieces but when you cannot even find the spot they need to go!

    I forgot my diagonal once, luckily I had a extra 1.25" to 2" adapter in my eyepiece case. Straight through viewing that night!
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    I have the red SvBony expanse clones. They claim to have a 68 degree field of view. I also have GSO Superviews, Bresser 70, and Agena Astro WA 15 and 20mm. They are all working quite well in my modified Meade Infinty 60 refractors. I also have the 20mm Agena Astro SWA eyepiece which has five elements in four groups instead of three groups of the others. I am doing a little personal research, trying to chase down DSOs in my Bortle 6 back yard with them and have had some success whenever I can get a really good clear and relatively stable sky. As far as the 20 and 15mm eyepieces, they are all performing about the same with very minor "flavor" differences. The Agena WA eyepieces have a 65 degree AFOV with a very nice sharp edge to the field. The rest of them claim 68 to 70 degrees. There tends to be a little extra monkey business going on in that extra area and the edge of the 20mm is not necessarily very sharp. I think those are really pushing the boundaries of the optics. The SvBony eyepieces are absolutely beautiful and I enjoy using them. Their only drawback that I have found is that standard filters will not screw into the barrels.

    For use in a long refractor, if I were to purchase any of them again, it would probably be the Bresser 70 eyepieces to get the extra field for searching purposes. Bought at the right time the Bressers are down in the price range of the Agena WA eyepieces. The WA series has a 17mm eyepiece that has impressed me, but I would still like to have a 15mm in that series as well.

    The Agena Astro SWA 20mm, with its four lens groups, does not seem to have the light transmission of the other 20mm eyepieces with their three groups. This has come in handy, however, when I needed to drop down on light level one time when looking at the Owl Nebula. I could only get a momentary flash of the main disk with the others. Using the Agena SWA, the background and the darker spots in the nebula differentiated out in a more sensitive part of my vision and I was able to see the disk, a couple of the stars around the darker eye. I could definitely make out the darker eye and noted a slightly darker area where the other eye should be. The two stars I could see were winking in and out on me, but I could see them regularly.

    I have only used the 9 and 6mm SvBony eyepieces a few times. They do seem to be more sensitive to eye position than the others, but not enough to really give me any problems. However, I do not wear glasses.
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    Thanks for all the replies! I find them interesting. I just got in from pitting the Svbonys against my other eyepieces on Jupiter and the moon. I noted both Svbony's are parfocal with my Meade 9mm silver top. Overall, I was able to use them to view Jupiter and the moon. They kept kidney beaning on me, but I got some decent views. I had to give the win to my Meade kit silver top plossl because it showed 4 moons around Jupiter without blacking out on me. They were all about equal in sharpness. I think the red line Svbony was slightly better than the gold line, but they were close. I'm going to have family and friends try them, and I'll keep one and gift the other if they work better in their scopes. My favorite eyepieces are still my two Russells and my Meade Superplossl 15mm. I would try another Svbony eyepiece if they come out with a quality unit that is of a different design from these current two.

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