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    Default Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow



    Hi All,

    I am looking at getting a set of basic eyefilters and on a budget of $50-$75 and came across a few options. My Telescope is a Celestron 127 EQ and eyepieces are 10mm SWA FMC and 15mm SWA FMC. They say by Gosky but don't think Gosky makes them... Also a Celestron 3X barlow X-Cell LX. I have orion 25% Moon filter and a Gosky Light polution filter.

    My current options are:

    Mead 23A, 80A ,12 yellow, 58 Green fset or around $35

    Orion 25A Red, 80A Blue, 58 Green, 15 Yellow set for around $55

    Now my viewing intent will be focused on Venus, Jupiter, Mars and Saturn no stars or anything. And I plan on Getting a #21 Orange after this (not included in my current budget) since none of those two sets have it and read that it is good for Jupiter.

    Now my main concern is the difference between the #23A Red and #25A Red. Is there a big difference also could I opt for the cheaper mead filters with the 23A Red and Purchase a Variable Polarizer filter to adjust the light level? Is a variable polarizer good overall to have? The same would apply to the #15 yellow on Orion vs #12 Yellow on the mead and what is better for my setup.

    Also to take into condieration, Most of the time I use my Smartphone to take photos alot it is a (Google Pixel 2xl). Its no DSLR but has one of the best cameras for smartphones and had some nice photos of the moon so far since I got it. If none of the above would help improve details, contrast ect.. what would be recommended? Would a UHC be more helpful?

    Thanks in advanced

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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    A UHC filter is for viewing nebula and will not help with planetary viewing.
    Personally I would skip buying these filters as they are usually not very helpful and buy good quality ones over time.

    If you do decide to buy some of these get the lighter coloured filters for your aperture of telescope.
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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    I'd be wary of using Wratten colour filters of much less than about 40% transmission with any reflecting scope under 150mm. An 80A Blue can be good on a bright Jupiter and an 82A Light Blue is very good for a twilight Jupiter in my experience. An 82A Light Blue, #11 Yellow-Green and a #21 Orange would be good with your scope. Yellow-Green can be particularly good for Saturn and Orange also works well on a daytime/twilight Moon as it tends to turn the surrounding sky black. Those three were the filters that worked well on my 130mm Newtonian.

    https://agenaastro.com/gso-1-25-11-y...en-filter.html

    Below is a list of transmission rates for GSO Wratten filters.

    AD050 #58 Dark Green 24% T

    AD051 #56 Light Green 53% T

    AD052 #38A Dark Blue 17% T

    AD053 #80A Medium Blue 30% T

    AD054 #82A Light Blue 73% T

    AD055 #15A Dark Yellow Filter 67% T

    AD056 #12 Deep Yellow 74% T

    AD057 #8 Light Yellow 83% T

    AD058 #11 Yellow/Green Filter 78% T

    AD059 #25 Red 14% T

    AD060 #23A Light Red Filter 25% T

    AD061 #47 Violet 3% T

    AD062 #21 Orange 46% T

    AD063 #29 Dark Red Filter 7% T

    AD083 #96ND 50% T – Density 0.3

    AD084 #96ND 25% T – Density 0.6

    AD085 #96ND 13% T – Density 0.9
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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    Yea, what Gabrielle said.

    I've tried this and that over the years and basically find the wratten color filters to do nothing more than add color for planetary use. While I'm not a hardcore planetary observer, the only ones I could personally recommend would be the #8 and the #80A. Possibly the #11 for Saturn. Typically I find the Baader contrast booster filter (FCB) to be more beneficial. https://www.baader-planetarium.com/e...er-filter.html Especially for Mars and Jupiter, and it's helpful for lunar contrast and detail also.
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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    Even the Baader Moon & Skyglow makes a much better planetary filter over the written filters.
    My most used for general planetary viewing is a 2" B+W #48 FL-D filter.
    You would have to look for a used one now but the last one I ordered (1.5 years ago) from Germany to Canada cost €14 which includes shipping.
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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    Thanks for the help all

    This helps me quite a bit now I'll let you know what I end up getting. I got a amazon gift card so kind of locked into there.

    Edit: just looked on amazon they have the baadar contrast booster and moon and skyglow for around the same price. Which do you think I should choose?

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    Im not there yet,im have just come to the EQ-6 Tripod, in my astro equipment setup plan, i dont even have a descent scope yet"very funny" but when it comes to filter for astro viewing- could it be quite intresting-maybe for get out just that off your equipment.Helping for abbervation/comas/sharper pictures etc---
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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    Quote Originally Posted by thebutcher View Post
    Thanks for the help all

    This helps me quite a bit now I'll let you know what I end up getting. I got a amazon gift card so kind of locked into there.

    Edit: just looked on amazon they have the baadar contrast booster and moon and skyglow for around the same price. Which do you think I should choose?

    If by Moon & Skyglow you mean Baader Neodymium, I'd definitely go for that. It can be used on anything and is considered the Swiss Army Knife of filters.

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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    Hello Thebutcher,

    I am also using the "Swiss Army Knife" from Baader.
    This Neodymium filter increases the contrast still keeping the neutral color balance as important for the planets.
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    Default Re: Color filters 23A vs 25A 12 yellow vs 15 Yellow

    Thanks All I think I am gona go for the Baader Sky Glow neodymium. Also to see Venus with this would I need to stack it with another filter since it is so bright as I read. I have an orion 25% moon filter I could add or would I need something else or just that Baader will do? .

    Thanks again

 

 
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