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    Default Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade



    Okay, so here's the deal. I'm due for a significant bonus at work and I'm upgrading my eyepiece collection.

    My scope is a tweaked AD8. I have a pretty serious astigmatism (-2.0) in my viewing eye, so I generally need my glasses for exit pupils above 1.0-1.5 mm. I view pretty much everything, DSOs, Lunar, Planets, although I'm not much into splitting doubles.

    My current collection (listed in my sig) is a GSO SV 30mm that came with the scope, three X-Cel LX's 25mm, 12mm, 5mm, two Vixen SLV's 9 and 6 mm.

    My plan is to keep the Vixens, which are very nice planetary's, and replace the GSO and The Celestrons with these:

    TV Panoptic 27mm
    TV DeLite 15mm
    TV DeLite 11mm
    TV DeLite 7mm

    I'm basically considering these my "lifetime" eyepieces and looking for quality glass, with long eye relief, that will make the scope (and my eyes) the limiting factor in what I can see.

    A year or two ago I tried a couple of ES82s (30mm and 14mm) but couldn't quite deal with their FOV (and the lack of eye-relief on the 14mm), I felt like I was having too work to hard to see the field edges, or something. I think I prefer seeing the entire FOV at the same time (if that makes sense).

    What do you all think? Is there a better way to spend $1100 (ish) on an eyepiece collection?

    Thanks for reading!
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    Have you considered a Televue Dioptrx to help with the astigmatism?
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    The Delites get very good reviews so I expect they would be quite nice to use.
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabby76 View Post
    Have you considered a Televue Dioptrx to help with the astigmatism?
    Tele Vue Optics: DIOPTRX™

    The Delites get very good reviews so I expect they would be quite nice to use.
    Yes, I've considered it, and I will probably get one eventually, but I'm not too sure about manipulating that device on and off of multiple eyepieces in the dark....

    Thanks!
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    The Pentax XW are another great eyepiece though about $120USD more than the DeLite. 70 AFOV with 20mm eye relief, exceptional views with them.
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    I got rid of my Pentax XW's and Delos for Delites. The DL's show more colors on the planets than those 2 others and just as much fine detail.
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by billp View Post
    Okay, so here's the deal. I'm due for a significant bonus at work and I'm upgrading my eyepiece collection.

    My scope is a tweaked AD8. I have a pretty serious astigmatism (-2.0) in my viewing eye, so I generally need my glasses for exit pupils above 1.0-1.5 mm. I view pretty much everything, DSOs, Lunar, Planets, although I'm not much into splitting doubles.

    My current collection (listed in my sig) is a GSO SV 30mm that came with the scope, three X-Cel LX's 25mm, 12mm, 5mm, two Vixen SLV's 9 and 6 mm.

    My plan is to keep the Vixens, which are very nice planetary's, and replace the GSO and The Celestrons with these:

    TV Panoptic 27mm
    TV DeLite 15mm
    TV DeLite 11mm
    TV DeLite 7mm

    I'm basically considering these my "lifetime" eyepieces and looking for quality glass, with long eye relief, that will make the scope (and my eyes) the limiting factor in what I can see.

    A year or two ago I tried a couple of ES82s (30mm and 14mm) but couldn't quite deal with their FOV (and the lack of eye-relief on the 14mm), I felt like I was having too work to hard to see the field edges, or something. I think I prefer seeing the entire FOV at the same time (if that makes sense).

    What do you all think? Is there a better way to spend $1100 (ish) on an eyepiece collection?

    Thanks for reading!
    I have started with a set of X-Cel LX EPs, but upgraded to a mix of ES82, ES68 and Meade UWA. They are definetly better quality EPs, but I run into similar issue: I can't see whole FOV in ES82 and just barely see in Meade UWA with glasses on.

    However, I would definitely recommend ES 68 24mm. It has ~20mm eye relief, very comfortable to use with glasses on, and great optics. It is 1.25" EP so I don't need to mess with adaptors, stepping down to shorter FL EPs.

    I have tried and returned TV Delos and Baader Hyperions and Morpheus.

    I had a chance to compare Vixen LVW 17mm to my ES68 20mm and UWA 18mm, and can definitely recommend Vixen LVW line. 20mm ER, 65 deg FOV, very comfortable with glasses.

    I am strongly considering Delites and will eventually test them in my scopes. My only concern is that as DSO hunter with manual mount I prefer to have wider FOV, closer to 70 deg.
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    Quote Originally Posted by billp View Post
    Okay, so here's the deal. I'm due for a significant bonus at work and I'm upgrading my eyepiece collection.

    My scope is a tweaked AD8. I have a pretty serious astigmatism (-2.0) in my viewing eye, so I generally need my glasses for exit pupils above 1.0-1.5 mm. I view pretty much everything, DSOs, Lunar, Planets, although I'm not much into splitting doubles.

    My current collection (listed in my sig) is a GSO SV 30mm that came with the scope, three X-Cel LX's 25mm, 12mm, 5mm, two Vixen SLV's 9 and 6 mm.

    My plan is to keep the Vixens, which are very nice planetary's, and replace the GSO and The Celestrons with these:

    TV Panoptic 27mm
    TV DeLite 15mm
    TV DeLite 11mm
    TV DeLite 7mm

    I'm basically considering these my "lifetime" eyepieces and looking for quality glass, with long eye relief, that will make the scope (and my eyes) the limiting factor in what I can see.

    A year or two ago I tried a couple of ES82s (30mm and 14mm) but couldn't quite deal with their FOV (and the lack of eye-relief on the 14mm), I felt like I was having too work to hard to see the field edges, or something. I think I prefer seeing the entire FOV at the same time (if that makes sense).

    What do you all think? Is there a better way to spend $1100 (ish) on an eyepiece collection?

    Thanks for reading!
    This is an excellent plan!

    Quote Originally Posted by Gabby76 View Post
    Have you considered a Televue Dioptrx to help with the astigmatism?
    Tele Vue Optics: DIOPTRX™

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    Yes, agreed.

    Quote Originally Posted by billp View Post
    Yes, I've considered it, and I will probably get one eventually, but I'm not too sure about manipulating that device on and off of multiple eyepieces in the dark....

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    Quote Originally Posted by billp View Post
    ouple of ES82s (30mm and 14mm) but couldn't quite deal with their FOV (and the lack of eye-relief on the 14mm), I felt like I was having too work to hard to see the field edges, or something. I think I prefer seeing the entire FOV at the same time (if that makes sense).
    Yeah I am with you. I really dislike the porthole effect. About the best fit for me are 68 FOV. The ES line of these eyepieces are even tighter for eye relief
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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    For those of you following this thread, I pulled the trigger on the plan and these showed up today. The 7mm is on backorder.

    Thanks for all the help and advice, I'll keep you posted on how they work out.

    Sorry about the clouds! :-)


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    Default Re: Looking for comments or advice on eyepeice upgrade

    Congrats on the new glass Bill! Looks great. 7mm is close enough to 6mm SLV, let me know how they compare.

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