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    Default newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing



    I'm new to the forum and have owned my Celestron nexstar 8" for around a year. I am to the point now where I am unhappy with my current economy eyepiece options. I have the kit EPs plus a cheap celestron zoom which is handy but just no longer clear enough for me to really see well. I plan to upgrade my EPs over the next few months and want to start out with a decent EP in the 8-12mm range I can use for closeup moon viewing and viewing the planets plus attach my camera and do some basic photos. A friend recommended the Baader hyperion 10mm at $120 which he suggested was the cheapest EP actually worth upgrading to. He also suggested the explore scientific 8.8mm at $130 and then follow up with the ES 14mm same $130 price.

    I realize the cost of the EPs I'm looking at are cheap to most of you guys but I'm new to this so trying to step up from the cheapie stuff I've been using without breaking the bank since I am also buying a sony A6300 and gotta keep the wife happy

    Any suggestions between these two or maybe other options in the same price range? thanks in advance.
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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    Hello and welcome to the forums
    Most of the eyepieces you have mentioned are commonly used so not considered cheap.
    I am assuming that your 8" is an SCT since it is a Celestron?
    For lunar and planetary detail a Orthoscopic or Plossl design would be the best. The Hyperion are a good eyepiece also.
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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    pardon my ignorance but I don't even know what a ortho or plossi really are. Can you tell me brand and models that you would recommend? I'm getting at least one upgrade lens for Christmas and wife wants me to tell her what to get basically but trying to keep it close to $100.

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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    You'll probably get many replies with many different EP recommendations, all of which I'm sure will be top quality suggestions. For my viewing preference of close-up lunar and planetary viewing where a wide field of view is not totally necessary, it's very hard to beat the orthoscopic. For clarity, contrast and level of detail they are hard to top. They usually come in at around $100 or below on average. The most common brands you will run across are the Kokusai Kohki "Fujiyama" https://agenaastro.com/kokusai-kohki.html , and the Baader classic ortho https://agenaastro.com/eyepieces/sho...ho_plossl.html . You can also frequently find some of the older, now discontinued models from different manufacturers on the pre-owned market. The University Optics brand is one you will usually find that is held in high regards.
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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    Welcome to the forum! Celestron X-Cel LX are good quality EPs and will perform well in your scope. I would suggest 25mm, 18mm and 12mm.

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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    Good Orthoscopics would be the Fujiyama-HD or the Baader Classic Orthoscopic. Agena Astro sells both and for a Plossl the GSO brand is a very good one for the price.
    They have a smaller FOV but are excellent for detail viewing.
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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    Also: The Vixen NPL plossl series is a great price+performance EP that I always found to perform great in an SCT scope. https://agenaastro.com/eyepieces/shopby/vixen_npl.html
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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    thanks for the tips... my friend said the perk of the baader hyperion is you can thread a camera body right into it with simple adapter. Do the other lenses have the same capability? Again... I am a newbie to all this and have been using a gopro with a cheapie holder I have to manually align to the eyepiece so wanting to really step up my camera capability as well as the clarity when observing. BTW... I am pretty addicted to the entire star gazing thing. I live in country on acreage and spend about 10 hours or so per week stargazing. Wife thinks it is crazy probably but I find it is relaxing.

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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    Very few eyepieces have that capability like the Hyperions but you can get different adapters that hold your camera over the eyepiece itself for eyepiece projection imaging.
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    Default Re: newbie needing advice for EP options in $100 range for moon and planet viewing

    hey those vixen plossi EPs are actually quite affordable. I am trying to get something that I wont feel I need to upgrade again next year. What is the goto for you seasoned guys? My fiend is really into it and told me each of his EPs cost around $300. I can't do that but am shooting for the best quality I can get in the $100 range each. Since I also love photography... I want at least one of the lenses to be easy to mount a mirrorless digital camera into.
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