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    Default Hyperion vs Celestron?



    I've been looking at some eye pieces that I may purchase down the road and I'm just trying to feel for what brand I should shoot for. I don't think I'll be buying any $500-1000 dollar eye pieces just yet so I've sort of narrowed it down to the two listed in the title. The telescope I'm looking to buy has a focal ratio of 5, I know that is of some importance when looking for eye pieces. Hyperions seem a little more pricey between the two, though I've heard better things about Celestron X-Cel. Thanks for any replies!

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    Default Re: Hyperion vs Celestron?

    When picking eyepieces "shooting for a brand" is not always a good idea.
    Depending on the type of scope and observations you wish to do will determine the best field of view and magnification range.
    Picking eyepieces that match your scope and eye is more important than brand name. All eyepieces in a specific series are not always good.
    If you can get to a star party, check out peoples scopes and different eyepieces, that will give you a good idea of what to look for.
    Hyperions are good and Celestron X-Cels are regarded as being very good eyepieces to.
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    Default Re: Hyperion vs Celestron?

    What Gabby said!

    The Hyperions are unusual in that you effectively get up to four for one: different focal lengths in the one eyepiece because you can unscrew the 1 1/4" barrel and use it as a 2". They have "fine tuning rings ("FTR'S)" to insert when you remove the 1 1/4" barrel, and can give 4 different focal lengths depending on the FTR you use, or if you use two together. This can be a bit fiddly though: especially in the dark! See: http://www.baader-planetarium.de/com...cription_e.pdf

    They have a wider FOV than the X-Cel's (68° vs 60°), but for an f5 scope they probably won't be as sharp at the edge unless you have a coma corrector.

    I haven't used the X-Cel's, but I did try the 21mm Hyperion in my f5 scope when I was looking for a sharp, relatively wide-field mid-range eyepiece (without a coma corrector). It was quite nice, but not as sharp or contrasty as I would have liked, and I ended up getting an 18mm TV Radian instead...

    Try before you buy is the best advice!

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    Default Re: Hyperion vs Celestron?

    I would agree with Dean about the Hyperions. While they are good eyepieces, they just never quite satisfied me in my f/5 scopes. I had the 21, 13, 8 and 5mm, but eventually sold them in favor of the ES 82s. The current crop of 60° AFOV eyepieces are actually very good values and an excellent step up from Plossls. Such as the Celestron X-Cels you mentioned or the Meade HD-60s. There are also the Astro-Tech Paradigm Dual EDs or Agena Starguider Dual EDs (same eyepiece different label) that have the same 60° AFOV but are not exactly the same design as the X-Cels or HD-60s.

    But as Gabrielle mentioned, if you can get to a star party to look through some different ones that is always beneficial. Not everyone likes the wider view eyepieces, such as my ES 82s. Some prefer to stay around the 68° AFOV point, or even a little less, which is where the ones mentioned above fill the need nicely without breaking the wallet.
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    Default Re: Hyperion vs Celestron?

    I had Hyperions. They were okay in an f/5 dob but they're generally better in f/6 or slower. That said, I didn't have too much problems with artifacts at the edges. The weakest of the Hyperion line is the 24mm. Plus, you can't use it with the front group lens removed like you can with the 5mm-21mm. The rings were a bit of a hassle when you're in the dark but it was nice to be able to remove the front group lens for an instant wide view (but you need a 2" focuser to take advantage of it).

    For a similar price, I prefer the ES line. I have the ES82* and ES100* eyepieces but I've heard good things about the 68* line as well. The ES82 from 4.7mm to 14mm are about the same price as the ES68. At 18mm and above the ES82 line gets more expensive. You can probably find some good deals for those on the used market. They tend to be well taken care of. They're well corrected to the edge of the field and they seem brighter. I was seeing brighter images with a 9mm ES eyepiece than I could with a 17mm Hyperion. I've never used the X-Cel line but I've heard they're pretty good.
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    I have a long focal length scope and find the HD-60s out perform the paradigm eyepieces marginally
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ruffles92 View Post
    I've been looking at some eye pieces that I may purchase down the road and I'm just trying to feel for what brand I should shoot for. I don't think I'll be buying any $500-1000 dollar eye pieces just yet so I've sort of narrowed it down to the two listed in the title. The telescope I'm looking to buy has a focal ratio of 5, I know that is of some importance when looking for eye pieces. Hyperions seem a little more pricey between the two, though I've heard better things about Celestron X-Cel. Thanks for any replies!
    Definitely Celestron LX X-Cel. For the price/performance point I just don't see a value in Hyperions. I also feel that they are unnecessary heavy and tall.

    Celestron LX X-Cel are solid performers in all kind of scopes. I don't know how is used EP market in Canada, but in US with a bit of patience you can pick used LX X-Cel in a great shape for ~$50 a piece, even better deal than buying new.
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    Default Re: Hyperion vs Celestron?

    It would be the X-Cels for me. If I were going to spend more, I would get the ES 82s and/or 68s.
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    Default Re: Hyperion vs Celestron?

    Thank you everyone for the replies! I'm a little ways away from buying any eye pieces but I'd like to gather all the information I can before hand and to understand the ins and outs of it all, so thanks again for the replies I will be taking it all under consideration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzmey View Post
    I don't know how is used EP market in Canada, but in US with a bit of patience you can pick used LX X-Cel in a great shape for ~$50 a piece, even better deal than buying new.
    Plus, if you decide they're not for you, you can usually sell them for what you paid. So it's more like you're borrowing them.
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