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    Default Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom



    Hi there, I have a 8'' dobson focal 1200mm, I'm interested in deep sky - observing and I would like to buy an eyepiece. What do you recommend me?

    - Baader Hyperion mark II zoom 1,25''.

    or

    - 24 or 25 mm eyepiece 2'' + adjustable barlow.

    I heard that 2'' eyepieces are better for deep sky, but I want a zoom and I heard there are no 2'' zooms.

    Thank you!
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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    For the focal length ranges you're looking at (24mm and narrower), a 2" eyepiece would provide no benefit.

    The Baader zoom is fantastic, and includes both a 1.25" and a 2" barrel, if the barrel size is a concern.

    If you're looking for a wider fov eyepiece, then you'll likely be looking at a fixed focal length - 32mm or 40mm or something wider than zooms are available in.

    My advice would be to get the Baader and a dedicated wide-view eyepiece.

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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    I am not a fan of zoom EPs, they have a comparative narrow field of view. You will get better performance from a dedicated EP. For DSOs, you will want to use 2" EPs. Once found, some DSOs will show better with higher magnification and you will switch to the 1.25" format. I prefer the ES 82s and 68s and would suggest getting 3-4 of these. The ES 24mm 82 would be a wonderful DSO EP for your scope, the 18mm 82 is my most used EP in every scope I have that has a 2" focuser. The 14mm 82 sees almost as much use as a medium power EP, and the 6.7mm 82 is my EP of choice for most high power planetary viewing.
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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by caballerodiez91 View Post
    Hi there, I have a 8'' dobson focal 1200mm, I'm interested in deep sky - observing and I would like to buy an eyepiece. What do you recommend me?

    - Baader Hyperion mark II zoom 1,25''.

    or

    - 24 or 25 mm eyepiece 2'' + adjustable barlow.

    I heard that 2'' eyepieces are better for deep sky, but I want a zoom and I heard there are no 2'' zooms.

    Thank you!
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    Welcome to the forum! If you can provide the list of EPs you already have we will be able to advise you better. DSOs come in wide range of brightness and sizes, so there is no one 'do it all' EP.

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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by ckhorne View Post
    For the focal length ranges you're looking at (24mm and narrower), a 2" eyepiece would provide no benefit.
    Well, yes and no. Widest FOV you can achieve for 24mm in 1.25" barrel is 68 degrees. 82 to 100 degree EPs would require 2" barrel. I feel 68 degree is good enough, but many people prefer 82 or higher. In fact Explore Scientific 82 degree 2" 18 mm reported by many to be great for galaxy hunting with DOBs.

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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    Thank you for your answers!

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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by Ozman13 View Post
    I am not a fan of zoom EPs, they have a comparative narrow field of view. You will get better performance from a dedicated EP. For DSOs, you will want to use 2" EPs. Once found, some DSOs will show better with higher magnification and you will switch to the 1.25" format. I prefer the ES 82s and 68s and would suggest getting 3-4 of these. The ES 24mm 82 would be a wonderful DSO EP for your scope, the 18mm 82 is my most used EP in every scope I have that has a 2" focuser. The 14mm 82 sees almost as much use as a medium power EP, and the 6.7mm 82 is my EP of choice for most high power planetary viewing.
    Ah I have the baader hyperion mark II

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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzmey View Post
    Welcome to the forum! If you can provide the list of EPs you already have we will be able to advise you better. DSOs come in wide range of brightness and sizes, so there is no one 'do it all' EP.
    I understand. So, do you recommend me to get a 24 or 25 mm eyepiece 2'' + an adjustable barlow instead of the Baader Hyperion zoom 1,25''? (please imagine I didn't buy the hyperion xD).

    By what you said, I assume a 24mm eyepiece may have a FOV higher than 68º in 2''.

    I just want to see deep sky but also want to have everything in one.
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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    I would suggest the ES 24mm 82 2" EP.

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    Default Re: Baader Hyperion Zoom vs Barlow zoom

    Quote Originally Posted by caballerodiez91 View Post
    I understand. So, do you recommend me to get a 24 or 25 mm eyepiece 2'' + an adjustable barlow instead of the Baader Hyperion zoom 1,25''? (please imagine I didn't buy the hyperion xD).

    By what you said, I assume a 24mm eyepiece may have a FOV higher than 68º in 2''.

    I just want to see deep sky but also want to have everything in one.
    Thank you. What adjustable barlow could you please recommend me for that eyepiece?

 

 
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