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    Default Considering These Eyepieces for a 6SE



    Hyperion 24mm. I hear this is a good match for the geometry of the scope, in that you can't go any longer without a focal reducer. 68-degree FOV, and 17mm eye relief (though other Hyperions have 20mm relief).

    Orion Stratus 17mm. Also 68-degrees, with 20mm eye relief.

    Orion Stratus 8mm. Again, 68-degrees FOV and 20mm eye relief.

    Would I regret any of these? Am I going to wish I pushed this scope harder? I want to show the grandkids Jupiter and Saturn, and I'd like to go looking for Uranus and Neptune. Definitely planning to look for DSOs occasionally, but I have no interest in blowing things up as big as I can get them.

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    Default Re: Considering These Eyepieces for a 6SE

    The Hyperion 24mm is an amazing eyepiece. I use a pair of them with a binoviewer and they are quite spectacular.
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    Default Re: Considering These Eyepieces for a 6SE

    The Baader Hyperion and the Orion Stratus are, to all intents and purposes, the same eyepiece, they are just marketed under different names. The 24mm is regarded by many as the weakest of the range. The 21mm would be a better investment, although the 17mm would be best of all.

    The 8mm is also a good eyepiece, but the 17mm could be barlowed to give 8.5mm. A 13mm, on the other hand, could also be barlowed to give 6.5mm.

    You can get metal rings for them which will change the focal length, but they are fiddly to use in the dark, and you have to take the eyepiece apart to insert them. Not much fun on a cold night.

    I've never used a Stratus, but have used the Baaders, and they are excellent eyepieces for the money, and work well in the Nexstar. I use my Baader 17mm a lot.
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    Default Re: Considering These Eyepieces for a 6SE

    Quote Originally Posted by hal2000 View Post
    The Baader Hyperion and the Orion Stratus are the same eyepiece, they are just marketed under different names. The 24mm is regarded by many as the weakest of the range. The 21mm would be a better investment, although the 17mm would be best of all. The 8mm is a good eyepiece.
    Weakest of the range in what way if I may ask? The lesser eye relief? It doesn't really bother me much if at all. Very sharp views!
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    I stated that the 24mm is "regarded by many" as the weakest of the range. This is not a personal opinion. I think all the Baader Hyperions are very good eyepieces, although I would definitely say that the 17mm is an excellent eyepiece and the best of the range.

    I strongly suspect that these opinions (or prejudices) about the 24mm are strongly influenced by reviews of the Hyperion zoom, for which many reviewers feel that the relatively narrow field of view at 24mm (50 degrees apparently) lets this particular zoom down.

    If your Baader 24mm eyepieces work for you, that is great. I have no doubt they would be excellent in binoviewers.
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    Default Re: Considering These Eyepieces for a 6SE

    Quote Originally Posted by hal2000 View Post
    I stated that the 24mm is "regarded by many" as the weakest of the range. This is not a personal opinion. I think all the Baader Hyperions are very good eyepieces, although I would definitely say that the 17mm is an excellent eyepiece.

    If your Baader 24mm eyepieces work for you, that is great. I have no doubt they would be excellent in binoviewers.
    Just would be nice if you could elaborate on what "weakness" was mentioned. It would help the OP and us all I would think. Much appreciated.
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    Can the fine tuning rings be used in the Orion series as well?

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    I'm not sure about the rings in the Stratus.

    For both Leveye and cpurick, here's a very nice review of the 24mm Hyperion. It would very much concur with my own opinions about Baader Hyperions generally. Just to re-iterate, I think the Hyperions are very good eyepieces, and I am a fan, but I know that there are some folks who are prejudiced against the 24mm, probably for the reasons I mentioned in my last post

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    Can the fine tuning rings be used in the Orion series as well?
    Not that I know of, the Hyperions have a modular design whereas the Stratus do not.

    I have never heard the Hyperions being compared to the Stratus eyepieces as copies. The Stratus was a direct copy of the Vixen LV line and both of those came out a couple years before the Hyperions. They may have the same basic design but the modular design of the Baader would change the working parameters of the eyepiece. Also the Baader I believe was tweaked to make it AP friendly where the Stratus is a visual eyepiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hal2000 View Post
    I'm not sure about the rings in the Stratus.

    For both Leveye and cpurick, here's a very nice review of the 24mm Hyperion. It would very much concur with my own opinions about Baader Hyperions generally. Just to re-iterate, I think the Hyperions are very good eyepieces, and I am a fan, but I know that there are some folks who are prejudiced against the 24mm, probably for the reasons I mentioned in my last post

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    You never really mentioned exactly why in your own opinion. Thanks for the link though much appreciated sir.
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