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    Default From Plossls and back again



    You remember your reaction when you look into your first premium EP? - I am never going back to those Plossls again!

    Well, I always try to push my scopes' optics to the limits and quite a few more experienced folks here indicated that good Plossls can help you there.

    So, I decided to give Plossls another go and picked my 1st - TeleVue 20mm. Now I can tell that those folks are right. On several galaxies, globular clusters and one planetary nebula TV Plossl did show a bit more details, or helped to pick details easier compared to ES 68 20mm.

    I still like framing in ES 68 better, but if you looking to squeeze extra 10% of juice from a faint galaxy, give it a try.

    In the past when I compared stock Celestron Plossls to ES and even X-Cel EPs, Plossls under-deliver in terms of image brightness and contrast. So, I guess it has to be a premium Plossl.

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    Default Re: From Plossls and back again

    Congratulations on returning to the dark side Bigzmey I never leave home without mine.
    A good plossl will show you a wealth of detail that you miss when using widefields.
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    I remember when Plossls were considered premium EPs. Other than my ST80 my fastest scope is f8, so guess super premium stuff might not help me much anyway
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    Default Re: From Plossls and back again

    When I eventually have a goto scope again I may try out a few TV Plossls or a couple Orthos just out of curiosity to compare with my other EPs on planets and faint stuff. For now, I like my widefields since I currently only have a manual scope. Much easier to find stuff (and keep it in the FOV). My two Delos blow pretty much everything else out of the water, although my Meade UWA 14mm and shockingly, my 12mm X-Cel LX have held up respectably to the Deloses (Deloi?) considering the price differences. I'd be curious to try out a 12mm premium Plossl or Ortho and compare with my 12mm Delos and 12mm X-Cel.
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    I recently read a somewhat older review of TV plossls and the author was of the opinion that a good plossl (TV) was hard to beat unless you wanted to break the bank. I have yet to give them a try, but that day is coming...,.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ylem View Post
    I remember when Plossls were considered premium EPs. Other than my ST80 my fastest scope is f8, so guess super premium stuff might not help me much anyway
    Jeff, why wouldn't a premium EP benefit your scopes? I imagine that you could spend too much for something like an Ethos or Delose, but don't better EP's enhance even a budget scope?
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    Bigz, I'm with ya 100%. My TV 8,11 & 15 Plossl's keep a permanent place in my EP case. Like you, I really like the wide field views and the quality that the 82's provide. But when I get down and dirty with double/multi's and planets, I always reach for the Plossl first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frazmataz View Post
    Jeff, why wouldn't a premium EP benefit your scopes? I imagine that you could spend too much for something like an Ethos or Delose, but don't better EP's enhance even a budget scope?
    At Jeff; Sorry I re-read your post, you were saying the same thing I said.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wingsfan81 View Post
    When I eventually have a goto scope again I may try out a few TV Plossls or a couple Orthos just out of curiosity to compare with my other EPs on planets and faint stuff. For now, I like my widefields since I currently only have a manual scope. Much easier to find stuff (and keep it in the FOV). My two Delos blow pretty much everything else out of the water, although my Meade UWA 14mm and shockingly, my 12mm X-Cel LX have held up respectably to the Deloses (Deloi?) considering the price differences. I'd be curious to try out a 12mm premium Plossl or Ortho and compare with my 12mm Delos and 12mm X-Cel.
    I use manual mount. You find stuff with 82 degree EP and then you drop in Plossl to look at fine details.

    For me it is a win-win. I can afford Delos, but with Plossls I have TV EPs made to the same quality as Delos but $80 a peace.

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    Default Re: From Plossls and back again

    I like TV Plossls, too. I have the older smooth-side Japanese ones - with no dang undercuts!

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