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    Default What eyepiece should I get first?



    My Zhumell Z8 arrives tmrro. It comes with 9mm and a 30mm. Ive heard it's better to get a good episodes than get a Barlow or zoom. Is this true? I want to get 2 gold line up to go with the ones that come with it. Any suggestions? I Want to get the ES82 but they are out of my price range right now. That's why starting with two gold lines im hoping will be cheap and good quality EPS. What do you all think?
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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

    Those ES82 are my dream eyepieces. So take your time using the ones that came with your scope, save some money and by the time you about 150US saved is time to choose your favorite ES eyepiece.
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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

    If I do go that route what size do you recommend? Should I go for like 6mm so I can keep a nice balance between the others?

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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

    I started with the exact same 30mm and 9mm eyepieces that you'll be getting. The 30mm is a decent enough eyepiece. I bagged most of the Messier catalog with mine. The 9mm has a decently sharp view (it's a Plossl) but the AFOV is quite narrow (52) and the eye relief is terrible. But, I did have several nice peeks at Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Mars, Venus, Mercury with mine.

    My next step for my eyepieces was to get a barlow. I went with the GSO 2" 2x ED barlow. With this, I could use my 30mm as a 15mm. I tried the 9mm as a 4.5mm, but that was really too much power most of the time.

    The barlow doesn't get much scope time nowadays after I've expanded my eyepiece collection.

    If the ES's are out of your price range, I keep hearing good things about the Celestron X-Cel line, but you might want to wait on other opinions as I personally have no experience with those.

    Anyway, back to the point I was steering toward at first. With the 30mm, you'll have a lot of stuff in the sky available to you. It's always a wise course to get some time in, get a feel for what your preferred targets are (DSO or solar system? Clusters or galaxies?) and how you want to observe. You'll then get a feel for what additional focal lengths to go for and can make a much more educated and experienced decision on your purchase.

    For most of us, this stuff is expensive and takes a bit to save up the cash. Better to go slowly, learn, and buy right than to rush into things and spend your hard earned money on a turd.

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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

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    I started with the exact same 30mm and 9mm eyepieces that you'll be getting. The 30mm is a decent enough eyepiece. I bagged most of the Messier catalog with mine. The 9mm has a decently sharp view (it's a Plossl) but the AFOV is quite narrow (52) and the eye relief is terrible. But, I did have several nice peeks at Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, Mars, Venus, Mercury with mine.

    My next step for my eyepieces was to get a barlow. I went with the GSO 2" 2x ED barlow. With this, I could use my 30mm as a 15mm. I tried the 9mm as a 4.5mm, but that was really too much power most of the time.

    The barlow doesn't get much scope time nowadays after I've expanded my eyepiece collection.

    If the ES's are out of your price range, I keep hearing good things about the Celestron X-Cel line, but you might want to wait on other opinions as I personally have no experience with those.

    Anyway, back to the point I was steering toward at first. With the 30mm, you'll have a lot of stuff in the sky available to you. It's always a wise course to get some time in, get a feel for what your preferred targets are (DSO or solar system? Clusters or galaxies?) and how you want to observe. You'll then get a feel for what additional focal lengths to go for and can make a much more educated and experienced decision on your purchase.

    For most of us, this stuff is expensive and takes a bit to save up the cash. Better to go slowly, learn, and buy right than to rush into things and spend your hard earned money on a turd.

    Just my nickel's worth.
    What Bryan said....he is the dob guy expert here

    BTW I have an X Cel 9mm and have tried my friend's 18mm and 25mm. They are really nice eyepieces and not very expensive. I myself got mine in the second hand market for 40US. They provide 60AFOV so in medium and low magnification are confortable enough to enjoy DSOs view. My 9mm is only for planets cuz the FOV is a slightly narrow to enjoy DSOs.
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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

    Celestron LX X-Cel 5mm was my 1st EP upgrade from stock Plossls and I am still keeping and using it even though I have added ES and TeleVue EPs to my collection.

    For your scope 12mm would be perfect for DSOs to complement 30mm you already have and 7mm or 9mm for high power views of planets, moon and double stars splitting. Better to buy used and save. Cloudy Nights classified is great place to look.
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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

    Good advice so far, I don't have much to add. I too have the 30mm that comes with your scope, and it isn't a bad eyepiece. Like Bryan, I too had found a LOT of the Messier objects with just the M30 and enjoyed them through the eypeice. The center of the view is nice and crisp. I personally don't mind the 9mm plossl that comes with it. It is nothing to right home about, but is great for moon and planets. I actually frequently use my 2x Barlow with the 9mm on planets and the moon--some nights the seeing is good enough to actually get a great view. I have the 12" dob, so I can handle a little more magnification than an 8" dob.

    I personally would use what you have for a while before you get a new eyepiece. I've had my 12" dob for less than a year, and I only have bought one eyepiece (a 25mm ES70 since it was dirt cheap and on sale at Christmas). I did get a 2x barlow though, and I use it all the time. I would prefer to get new eyepieces than a barlow, but it didn't fit my budget. Now I'm saving up for an ES82 18mm.

    I think that when the time comes to get a new eyepiece, you will probably want something between the 9mm and the 30mm. If you are hunting DSOs, you will rarely want more magnification than the 9mm (I only use my 9mm on DSO on globular clusters).
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    Default Re: What eyepiece should I get first?

    I started with the X-Cel eye pieces, very decent eye pieces IMHO. I graduated to the ES 82's over time. I can thank Bryan for suggesting them to me. The ES's are awesome EP's. I agree with Bryan and LG save your pennies till you can afford them, they do go on sale a few times a year. I started with the 14 mm, then the 11. But, if you want to move up to something a little more in your price point, the Celestron X-Cel's are a good way to start, they are roughly half the cost of the ES's. Clear skies.
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