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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual



    Agena has on their site expected availability for the Starguiders as 30 May. Hopefully that will pan out as planned.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    And my last follow-up, Astronomics said it would be about two months before they get any more Paradigms in stock to back fill those focal lengths that are shown as wait listed. So at this point, I would keep an eye on Agena around the first of June to see if the Starguiders have returned to stock. For those that are interested anyway.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    I'd like to get a full set of one particular model and have picked the Starguider series for that purpose (but that didn't stop me from ordering one SWA to check them out too ). No real reason for it, just seems like an orderly, neat way to approach this. After I have one complete set, I can mix and match based on a model's reputation for a given size.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    I am kinda jealous of you guys that have access to lot of web astronomic sites in US to buy accesories at a good price.
    Well, it seems like here in China my choices are shortened to Celestron (with the less abusive prices), Meade, some chinese and unknown copy brands and I saw very good prices on ES but they were a little below US price so I am a little afraid it is a copy or spam...

    But...I can't complain. Prices are much better here than in my country so I was thinking I will see if I can afford some celestron eyepiece.
    Thanks guys for your help.

    Now I have some very useful info so when it is time to travel to US, I could get some non expensive stuff at Agena.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    Quote Originally Posted by musiclucho View Post
    I am kinda jealous of you guys that have access to lot of web astronomic sites in US to buy accesories at a good price.
    Well, it seems like here in China my choices are shortened to Celestron (with the less abusive prices), Meade, some chinese and unknown copy brands and I saw very good prices on ES but they were a little below US price so I am a little afraid it is a copy or spam...

    But...I can't complain. Prices are much better here than in my country so I was thinking I will see if I can afford some celestron eyepiece.
    Thanks guys for your help.

    Now I have some very useful info so when it is time to travel to US, I could get some non expensive stuff at Agena.
    I know we are spoiled here . Celestron LX X-Cel and Luminos are good lines, either will serve you well.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigzmey View Post
    I know we are spoiled here . Celestron LX X-Cel and Luminos are good lines, either will serve you well.
    The funny fact is that in my country you can easily double or triple the value of that stuff but we were only 3 hours by plane from US. Here in China is more than 10 hours by plane, more than 3 times more in time. Why they are not that expensive? I really don't know if the stuff they sell here as "imported" had left China and went back.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    I would expect eyepieces produced in China would be cheaper there, provided you can find an outlet that carries them. Typically the optical companies have stock eyepiece designs that they market to vendors who in turn will contract to have their company name placed on them. An example would be the Agena Starguiders and Astro Tech Paradigms. Same eyepiece from the same manufacturer (Barsta) selling them to different re-sellers. The same eyepieces have been marketed in Asia and Europe under different names, such as BST (Barsta's own label), Omegon, Teleskop Service, etc.

    Then you have some companies who will work with the manufacturer to establish certain specifications they want met in an eyepiece line that isn't necessarily a cookie cutter type product. The ES eyepieces are distributed worldwide, but in many cases, it seems those sold in the US (where ES is based) are cheaper than in the rest of the world. That said, if there is an outlet for them in China, I would think they would be reasonably priced there because there is no exporting process to go through. The majority stockholder in ES is Jinghua Optical Electronics Co., Ltd. (JOC), which is convenient, since they produce the ES labeled products.

    The term "imported" could simply be a marketing ploy to impress the buyer there. As we know, a great number of products are made in China for worldwide distribution, and thus there would be no sound reason to ship it out and then back again merely to tag it as "imported". It could be a brand that is manufactured there for a foreign company that is merely distributed in country but marked as "imported" as a selling point (or perhaps a way to get around some regulation). It would not be the first time that the meaning of a descriptive word or phrase was misused for the purposes of making money.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    Looks like some Starguider's are back in stock!
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    Yeah I saw that. I got an email from Agena letting me know. I do see they show the 8mm still out of stock. Not sure if that's an oversight on their part, didn't get those, or sold out filling back orders? Glad to see you have some of the Paradigm versions and hope you enjoy them.
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    Default Re: Agena SWA or Starguider Dual

    Quote Originally Posted by KT4HX View Post
    Yeah I saw that. I got an email from Agena letting me know. I do see they show the 8mm still out of stock. Not sure if that's an oversight on their part, didn't get those, or sold out filling back orders? Glad to see you have some of the Paradigm versions and hope you enjoy them.
    Was able to get out a few minutes last night after work (very few minutes!), to take the Paradigms for a short test drive. Seeing conditions were horrible, so will hopefully get a better chance tonight and tomorrow, but haven't checked the forecast as yet (afraid to look). Nice looking EP's, though.
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