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    Default Thoughts on the Nagler 22mm



    Okay, I have the Panoptic 27mm that was a gift from my daughter several years ago, so I will be keep that eyepiece even if I retire it somewhat. I am thinking about replacing it with the 22mm Nagler. Thoughts on that eyepiece? I also have the 24mm Panoptic so I won't be selling that off either. I intend to use the 22mm as a finder eyepiece and then work down on either my Pentax XW line or my Delos eyepieces. I've used the 26mm before but eye relief is a concern to me with that eyepiece.

    So again, just curious if you have experienece with the 22mm Nagler what are the pro's and what are the con's from your experience. Thoughts on the eye relief on the 26mm Nagler? I do wear eye glasses to observe.

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    If you prefer bigger eye relief, have a look at the type 4 Naglers - I have the 12mm and 17mm ones - and they're designed with longer eye relief than the type 5 and 6 Naglers. I think they do a type 4 twentysomething mm version.
    If you check televue's website it should list the eye relief for the different Naglers, so you can see how they compare.

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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Nagler 22mm

    Yeah, the 22mm Nagler has 19mm which will work according to the calculator on TeleVue's site. The 26mm only has 16mm of ER and that can or cannot due. At 51 now I know my eyes will continue to degrade over time so if I am spending the $, I want one that is going to be with me for awhile. I am leaning heavily for the 2mm Nagler Type 5. Thanks! Still looking for pro's and con's for the 22mm Nagler.
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    I have a 22mm t4 Nagler. It's large and pretty heavy eyepiece. That and the price are the only negatives I have come across so far. Some people have mentioned issues with the movable eye guard, but it works well for me. It has very nice eye relief and is super comfortable to use. The entire fov is easy to see and I can use the eyepiece for hours without any noticable eye fatigue. Eye placement is not an issue at all. I use it in an 8" sct, so I can't help much on how it would look in a fast scope. Looks very nice in my scope.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Nagler 22mm

    I liked the 22mm Nagler in the short time I owned one. I did a comparison between it and the ES 82 24mm in Dec 2011. Below is a link to that thread. The bottom line was they were so close - actually, I couldn't find a glowing difference - that I sold the used T4 for what I paid for it and kept the more cost efficient ES. But again, that is how I saw it with my eyes through my scope in my backyard. So take it for what that's worth.

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    I compared the 20mm and 22mm Naglers and the 22 has earned a permeate place in my eyepiece case. Good eye relief, killer sharp, and easy to use. My scopes are f8 and f10.
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    Default Re: Thoughts on the Nagler 22mm

    The 22mmT4 has nice 19mm eye relief. I purchased all of the T4's for that reason. The 22T4 is very sharp and has high contrast. I have not observed any lateral color with it. It has very slight pin cushion but not as bad as the Panoptics (I used to have the 27P). It is not as well corrected for coma in fast reflectors as the 31mmT5 so I would recommend a coma corrector for F5 or faster. With a CC this EP Rocks!

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