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    Default Considering more eyepieces...



    Hi, I'm considering adding one or both of these eyepieces to the arsenal for planetary viewing. I particularly want to get up close and person (as possible) with Jupiter:

    1. Celestron X-Cel LX 2.3mm
    2. Meade Series 5000 HD-60 4.5mm

    Any thoughts on these, and if they would be suitable for my system (signature)?

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    Default Re: Considering more eyepieces...

    I have no personal experience with those eyepieces. I think they have good reputations.

    The 2.3 is right on the limit of what you can expect to be able to use in rare, perfect conditions. While, in those conditions, it will give you those up close views you want, don't expect to be able to use it often. The 4.5 will get more use and will likely become your main planetary eyepiece. It is at the limit of what is useable in "normal" conditions, so expect that sometimes even it may be too much.

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    Default Re: Considering more eyepieces...

    The X-Cel 2.3mm would very much overpower your scope, most of the time seeing conditions (dictated by atmospheric turbulence and such) will limit you to not much more than 250x on planets, and even that may only be a few nights out of the year. Most of the time 150-200x is the best range for Jupiter, the 7.5mm in your signature should give you pretty good views assuming it is of decent quality. A good 5 or 6mm EP would give you higher power that you could use on nights of good seeing, but I wouldn't go any higher power than a 5mm unless you're interested in high power lunar observing. The 7.5mm you have should give you 160x magnification, a 6mm will give you 200x which will still be usable on planets a good number of nights. A 5mm will give you 240x, which you'll be able to use once in a while, but nights that will allow this will be more rare. The 2.3mm you mentioned will give you 522x which would be way too much on anything, except maybe the moon (once in a blue moon ). I speak from experience here as I actually have used close to 500x successfully on the moon a couple times (I have pics to prove it) but using that kind of magnification on anything else would give you boiling mush, I'm afraid. Hope this helps you a bit, just curious what sort of budget are you working with? Might help us to recommend some nicer EPs for your stated purpose.
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    Default Re: Considering more eyepieces...

    Thanks for the input, since my first post, I've been browsing the amazon and seeing the 100 degree ES eyepieces that are upwards of $400! Ha, I compiled a wishlist from 5.5 to 20 that cost way more than my scope did!

    Otherwise, yeah, what do y'all think?
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    Default Re: Considering more eyepieces...

    Quote Originally Posted by rickman90 View Post
    Thanks for the input, since my first post, I've been browsing the amazon and seeing the 100 degree ES eyepieces that are upwards of $400! Ha, I compiled a wishlist from 5.5 to 20 that cost way more than my scope did!

    Otherwise, yeah, what do y'all think?
    I'll bet the views through those in your Xt10i would be awesome...otherwise, for a cheaper alternative the X-Cel LX 5mm or Zhumell Z Series 5mm would be nice options for higher power planetary views. The Meade 5000 UWA 5.5mm would also be a good option for slightly more than the other two I just mentioned ($103).
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    Default Re: Considering more eyepieces...

    The Long Perng series are good value too, and have 20mm eye-relief, although not as wide-angle as the Meade. 5mm or 6mm will give you great views on good nights.

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    Default Re: Considering more eyepieces...

    I'll second Wing's mention of the Zhumell Z Series Planetary EP's. While these are cheap to buy, they are good eyepieces for the price. Orion sells the same EP's under their label, but are asking twice the price for them.

    I have the 5mm, and it is a great EP for planets with excellent eye relief.

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