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    Default So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?



    So I started looking at everyone's list of equipment and noticed many list more than one of a particular EP. I also saw that many still had their EP that came with their telescope.

    What do you use the stock EP for?

    Why if most buy better EP do they give them with a telescope? I guess something is better than nothing but if they are decent, why upgrade that exact one?

    If you sell them, what did you get for them? Was it worth it?
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    Okay, here's my description of what to do...

    Every astronomer who has much time (often measured in decades) in the eyepiece has a "sock drawer". Now, a "sock drawer" is not necessarily filled with socks, nor is it a "drawer". In my case, the "sock drawer" is actually a roll-around Craftsman tool box with eight drawers of varying height.

    Over time, you'll accumulate more "stuff" (eyepieces included) than anyone can ever use. That "stuff" goes in the "sock drawer". One never knows when he'll meet a budding astronomer who really is on a budget and can't afford to run out an buy eyepieces that cost $150 and up (each). However, your sock drawer contains at least twenty plossls of varying focal lengths... give him some.

    We recently had a young man who built a DIY Newt from cardboard tubes and some mirrors that he bought cheap. He was looking for a straight-line finder scope to add to the top. It just so happened that in my sock drawer were two (count 'em, two) brand-spanking new ES straight-line finder scopes. Why did they end up in my sock drawer? Because old guys like me refuse to use straight-line finders, and the two ES refractors I bought had 'em on board... replaced immediately with RACI's. So, I sent him one.

    It's called "paying back".
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    The reason they don't supply high quality eyepieces with the telescopes is because in many cases good eyepieces cost more than the telescopes themselves. To keep prices reasonable they supply entry level eyepieces to get the new budding astronomer on the right track.
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    I used extras for sunfunnel or sungun Solar projection projects. I give away sunfunnels to people new to astronomy so they can use their scopes during the daylight. You should see their faces. MAIN
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    You burn them as a sacrifice to the cloud gods in futile effort to end a long cloudy spell.

    Or, they make dandy ammo for use with a big sling shot to knock out street lamps.

    Otherwise, what John said.
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowjiber View Post
    Okay, here's my description of what to do...

    Every astronomer who has much time (often measured in decades) in the eyepiece has a "sock drawer". Now, a "sock drawer" is not necessarily filled with socks, nor is it a "drawer". In my case, the "sock drawer" is actually a roll-around Craftsman tool box with eight drawers of varying height.

    Over time, you'll accumulate more "stuff" (eyepieces included) than anyone can ever use. That "stuff" goes in the "sock drawer". One never knows when he'll meet a budding astronomer who really is on a budget and can't afford to run out an buy eyepieces that cost $150 and up (each). However, your sock drawer contains at least twenty plossls of varying focal lengths... give him some.

    We recently had a young man who built a DIY Newt from cardboard tubes and some mirrors that he bought cheap. He was looking for a straight-line finder scope to add to the top. It just so happened that in my sock drawer were two (count 'em, two) brand-spanking new ES straight-line finder scopes. Why did they end up in my sock drawer? Because old guys like me refuse to use straight-line finders, and the two ES refractors I bought had 'em on board... replaced immediately with RACI's. So, I sent him one.

    It's called "paying back".
    Thanks, John. It's good to know that there may be something useful to do with those sock-drawer items. Yes, mine is still a drawer, and not so much stuff in there, but I won't throw anything away for a while

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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    To me, retailers should offer to discount the telescope if you choose to not take the cheap eyepieces and allow you to apply that savings to better eyepieces.

    Sometimes, like many of you, you have a very good to great set of EPs and you do not want to change. Why not cut the guy a break who is getting a second or third telescope?
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    Mine are saved for when the "little ones" look through the scope. Relieves my anxiety when they inevitably grab the EP. That's the only thing the 19.99 ES special was purchased for. The other "old" ones went to the High School were my kids go, along with the XT8 when we got the 10. (Still kills me as much a we fund the district the High School didn't have one scope!).
    Lastly I believe the majority of participants in this "hobby" are closet pack rats and radical DIY'ers - Never know when you can make something old new again.
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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    At last count my "sock drawer" had 9 binos (I think they multiply when you aren't looking, like Gremlins), 6 telescopes (depending how you count them), bits for an 8" dob, about 12 eyepieces, 4 tripods, lots of odds and sods, and a partridge in a pear tree...

    My entry-level eyepieces have been largely given away. However, I would like to point out that a lot of the supplied entry-level eyepieces, especially the plossls, aren't actually too bad. They have a smaller FOV than the fancier ones, usually (although not always!) a bit more CA and blurring at the edges, and a smaller "sweet spot", but they are usually pretty sharp in the middle, and the equivalent of eyepieces that might have cost over $100 20 years ago (in Australia at least). They certainly do the job for public nights and sticky fingers.

    Having said that, I have also seen some on entry level scopes that are all plastic (including plastic lenses) and are totally hopeless. These are a good match for the largely plastic focusers, dodgy EQ mounts and rickety tripods...

    Fortunately most are at least usable until you figure out what upgrades you might want to do.

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    Default Re: So what do YOU do with the Eyepieces that come with a scope?

    One thing I've done? I keep my 8" Dob out in plain sight - it's actually fairly good looking (or at least not objectionable) and I use the eyepiece that came with it as a sort of dust cap for the focuser. Since it's not too bad on-axis it also means I can drag the scope out for a quick look and I've got an at least marginal eyepiece already in place.
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