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    Wow, there is a big difference in the size and weight of ES 100 degree eyepieces and 82 degree ep's. I really like my 100'simage.jpeg but if weight is important you may want to consider the 82* ep's. I haven't had a decent night to check out the 18mm but from all the very positive comments here on the forum I am sure it is a fine eyepiece. So those of you who have both tell us what you think!
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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    Great Ed! Glad you like the 100s. For me, I know that the 82s are as large of an AFOV that I'm comfy with due to the amount of eye movement required. The weight is not of concern for me, but the amount of eye movement required is. But I know some like to go big time, while others prefer sticking at 68 to 70. Have fun with them!
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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    I don't own a 100 degree, but the 14mm would be fun. However, my eyepiece case is so full of heavy eyepieces already that the Navy has asked if they could use it for an anchor.

    You're gonna love that 18mm.

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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    Congrats on the 18 Ed! I think you'll really enjoy what this eyepiece will do for you.

    Yeah, I was in the ES store a couple of weeks ago and they had the 100º series EP's on display and they are indeed huge!

    Looking forward to a first light on the 18!
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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    Quote Originally Posted by Lowjiber View Post
    I don't own a 100 degree, but the 14mm would be fun. However, my eyepiece case is so full of heavy eyepieces already that the Navy has asked if they could use it for an anchor.

    You're gonna love that 18mm.

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    I know what you mean John! I have way too many for what I really need. The 14 is my favorite for DSO's but for solar system viewing I love the ES 5.5 if conditions are really good! Can't wait to try the 18!
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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    Hi Ed. I hear you Bro. I have the ES 9mm 100 degree 2" and the ES 18mm 82 degree 2" eyepieces. These are very regularly used by me, when I can get a scope out with our lousy weather here. My only regrets are not getting the 5.5mm ES !00 degree 2" eyepiece, but 1) this may be pushing things too much, 2) I am retired now, and money does not come easy, and 3) Alan is correct, in that 82 degrees is the sweet spot for DSO viewing. And, I also regret not getting the ES 25mm 70 degree eyepiece when they were on sale, but it reminded me of my Orion Q70 eyepieces. But for 20 bucks? This would have been great to use when I am outside with the scopes, and have neighbors with kids walking by, and wanting to take a look through the telescope. I have a very nice collection of 1.25" eyepieces for lunar and planetary viewing, and later I started adding 2" eyepieces for DSO viewing, from Orion, GSO, University Optics, and others:

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    For DSOs, the 2" eyepieces are the difference between looking though your front door peep hole, and looking out of your front window. Yes, I know that there are 2.5" and 3" telescope focusers and eyepieces out there, but this is all beyond my budget, and viewing ability. I use all of but a few of my 2" eyepieces with my 6" f/5 refractor, and all of them, including the heavy "pineapples or grenades" with my 12" Dob, while using welders magnets in a cloth bag, to counterbalance this scope from nosediving. Thanks for your excellent report Ed, and the best of regards.
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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    [QUOTE=Makuser;1058234205]Hi Ed. I hear you Bro. I have the ES 9mm 100 degree 2" and the ES 18mm 82 degree 2" eyepieces. These are very regularly used by me, when I can get a scope out with our lousy weather here. My only regrets are not getting the 5.5mm ES !00 degree 2" eyepiece, but 1) this may be pushing things too much, 2) I am retired now, and money does not come easy, and 3) Alan is correct, in that 82 degrees is the sweet spot for DSO viewing. And, I also regret not getting the ES 25mm 70 degree eyepiece when they were on sale, but it reminded me of my Orion Q70 eyepieces. But for 20 bucks? This would have been great to use when I am outside with the scopes, and have neighbors with kids walking by, and wanting to take a look through the telescope. I have a very nice collection of 1.25" eyepieces for lunar and planetary viewing, and later I started adding 2" eyepieces for DSO viewing, from Orion, GSO, University Optics, and others:

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    For DSOs, the 2" eyepieces are the difference between looking though your front door peep hole, and looking out of your front window. Yes, I know that there are 2.5" and 3" telescope focusers and eyepieces out there, but this is all beyond my budget, and viewing ability. I use all of but a few of my 2" eyepieces with my 6" f/5 refractor, and all of them, including the heavy "pineapples or grenades" with my 12" Dob, while using welders magnets in a cloth bag, to counterbalance this scope from nosediving. Thanks for your excellent report Ed, and the best of regards.[/QUOTE

    Thanks Marshall! Back in the day when I was a kid I only had a couple of .965 eyepieces and so I have probably gone a little nuts when it comes to eyepieces. Now getting near retirement age I too have got to start watching what I buy. You mentioned your 2 inch 9 mm ES, and that is one regret I have in getting the Meade version of the same eyepiece. The Meade is a good eyepiece and it was one of the first 2" eyepieces that I bought. I really like it but I kinda wish I had bought the ES because I think it's a great brand. I also have some Orion and UO eyepieces and even a little Baader Ortho but my go to's are ES! Best regards to you as well and I hope you get some clear skies soon!
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    Default Re: What a difference a few degrees make

    Quote Originally Posted by 10538 View Post
    Now getting near retirement age I too have got to start watching what I buy. You mentioned your 2 inch 9 mm ES, and that is one regret I have in getting the Meade version of the same eyepiece. The Meade is a good eyepiece and it was one of the first 2" eyepieces that I bought. I really like it but I kinda wish I had bought the ES because I think it's a great brand.
    Ed, I suspect your Meade is pretty close to the ES in design and function. My understanding is that Meade USA eyepieces are made by Kumning United Optical whereas the Meade eyepieces elsewhere are made by JOC, who is the primary stake holder in ES and produces their eyepieces. As I get it, JOC tried to reach an agreement to produce the Meade eyepieces (and other products) for the US market as well, but was unsuccessful. Though the Meade and ES lines share a lot of similarities, since they are produced (for us here) by two different companies one has to wonder if there aren't at least subtle differences. The one glowingly obvious difference is that the Meades tend to have a "fatter" look to them, versus the more slender approach that ES takes. I also prefer the ES line personally, and my 82s have never let me down in the field.

    Agree with both you and Marshall, that in retirement most of us tend to become more discerning with our money because we don't have as much coming in typically. So getting the best we can for what we can afford to spend is always a good plan. Have fun with your 100s!
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