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    Default Baader Planetarium Hyperion Eyepiece's



    Hey everyone. I went to a local star party last night and was lucky enough to look through an Explore Scientific 68° 24mm. The owner actually let me put it in my scope ! I liked the views as I looked at Albireo and Mizar. My question to all of you out there would be this, I don't have any experience with the Baader eyepieces, but I have heard great things about both manufacturers. Which would you suggest. I have the availability to purchase a couple of both as funds permit right now. My scope is a Celestron 8" Newt, F/5 and 1000mm focal length.
    I do a lot of general viewing, planets and DSO and anything I can find really. So I want to get an idea of a good choice of sizes to get also.

    Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks!

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    Default Re: Baader Planetarium Hyperion Eyepiece's

    The Baader Hyperion's are great eyepieces, and, in time, the 17mm and the 8mm will come to be regarded as classics. Similarly, the Explore Scientific 82 degree eyepieces will also become classics.
    You really can't go wrong with either, but make sure to get the 82 degree Explores. These are on sale in the USA at fantastic prices (compared to the UK) and I would strongly advise you to get in quickly while the going is good.

    If I was in your position, I would get the 17mm and 8mm Hyperion's, and the 11mm and 4.7mm Explore 82 degree. These will give you a nice range of magnifications. You will notice that I didn't choose a low power eyepiece. I find that I can pick up most things very easily in the 17mm Hyperion. I do have a 27mm Televue Panoptic, but use it mainly for hunting faint galaxies.

    Some may say that the 4.7mm will be too powerful for your scope, and will only be rarely used. But I see that you live in Arizona, so you will probably get a lot more use out of it than most of us.

    Good luck, whatever you choose.
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    I think you would be pretty happy with either the Baader or ES 82, 68 lines...all are great EP's for the price. But you can get the ES 82 or 68 EP's cheaper then the Baader..for most focal lengths. Also you might want to look at Celestron Luminos or Axiom LX EP's for those 82* FOV. I have a 23mm Axiom LX and I really like it...but it is a huge and heavy EP.

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    Default Re: Baader Planetarium Hyperion Eyepiece's

    I had my heart set on the ES 82 eyepieces but I got tired of waiting for them to come back in stock. So I bought a 10mm Hyperion. It just arrived today. I can give you a first light report if I take it out tonight. I got it to replace my 10mm Plossl for viewing planets at an even 150x. ES doesn't have a 10mm. Also the Baaders are modular. You can buy the extra spacing rings which will change the focal length of the eyepieces. If that is something that interests you, then you might want to take that into account as well.

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    Jonny, the first light report would be great ! I couldn't wait for a back ordered piece so I went to the local store and picked up an Orion Edge on 16mm flat field. I haven't heard of these before but Warren let me know that he really liked them. While I was there I got the EZ finder delux reflex sight and a variable polarizing filter. (Warren always gets me when I'm there). I'll be taking the scope out tonight and I'll let you all know how things go.
    Hal2000 I like your style. That seems like a great approach.

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    I plan on doing some Jupiter viewing after midnight tonight if the skies are clear. I'll let you know how it turns out. I don't have the modular rings either. So I can only use it as a 10mm. I can only compare it to my Plossl, however. I'm excited about the larger exit pupil and eye relief. Those small Plossls are like looking through a drinking straw.

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    Default Re: Baader Planetarium Hyperion Eyepiece's

    The fact is, it is quite difficult to buy a bad eyepiece nowadays, especially if you buy wide angle eyepieces in the mid-price range. In addition to Baader Hyperion's and Explore Scientific 82 degree, there are the already mentioned Celestron Axiom range, the Celestron Luminos range, and also the Celestron Ultima LX range. Meade has a range of both ultrawide and superwide eyepieces. You could also consider Speers Waler 70 degree eyepieces. Even Skywatcher are getting in on the act.

    All these are really good eyepieces, and will give you first class views. Everyone has their own particular favourites, but in reality, they are all pretty equal.
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    I had an ES Explore Scientific 24mm 68° on order for what seemed like forever I eventually cancelled and bought the Baader 24mm 68° EP (got it right away) and I'm extremely happy with it. If you look at my signature you'll see I do have a couple of ES lenses. Either way you can't lose

    BTW, I use my 4.7mm a lot on my PST and it's great for zeroing in on double stars on all of my scopes. Saturn (when the sky was good) was fantastic with it and I can't wait to try it on Jupiter soon. But to each his/her own - what's right for me may not be right for you.

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    I have to start this off by saying that I am not an expert in eyepieces so I don't know all the terminology used to describe what I am seeing, so I'll just tell it like I see it. Hopefully it makes sense.

    First light report: I was able to use the Orion Edge On 16mm last night in two different reflectors. First up was the Meade DS2114. This is a 4.5" reflector with a 1000mm focal length and a focal ratio of F/8.8. The first object I looked for was Albiero. The double star split nicely and I was able to clearly see good color definition between the two stars. I moved the object around in the eyepiece to see if the image degraded near the edges. It did, and pretty badly too. The last 20% or so of the view made the stars look like comets. ( is this called coma ? ) Next I went to the double cluster I was just able to fit both clusters in the view. But again the edge of the view were not sharp. Needless to this was disappointing. But what needs to be said is that the view from the center of the eyepiece is excellent. Far sharper than the eyepieces I got in the kit I bought.

    Now for the second scope. This one is my 8" Celestron Newt. It has a focal length of 1000mm and a focal ratio of F/5. In this scope the Orion Edge on eyepiece really shined ! I was amazed at how much better everything I looked at was. Andromeda galaxy was a good sight. It nearly filled the view, and it was clear right to the edge. I then pointed the scope at Venus to see if there was going to be the distortion near the edge of the view as was in the other scope. None whatsoever ! Now that is what I was expecting. In conjunction with a variable polarizing filter I was able to see that Venus was a partial crescent. My wife couldn't believe that it would be that bright. So after that view I went to Jupiter. Now this is the first time I've had a chance to look at Jupiter this year and boy have I missed it ! The view once again was excellent. I was able to clearly see the banding on the surface and what may be the great red spot. It was near center, but there was also a large mark just to the left center of the planet as well. The moons stretched through the field and at the edge of the eyepiece they also stayed very sharp.
    By now I was relieved that the eyepiece was working as well as I'd hoped. So I went to look at the Orion Nebula. As always, what an amazing sight. This proved to be the abject that I spent the most time viewing. I couldn't look away. The image was very clear and I could see the dark areas and the trapezium very well. Overall I am happy with this eyepiece, but I am wondering why it performed better in the 8" than the other scope ?

    Tonight I also used the Orion EZ finder delux. This is the red dot sight that has multiple sight patterns that you can choose from. I found that the hollow circle worked best for me. I liked the adjustable brightness of the sight so I can still see the object I am pointed at. As a newb I still need my 9x50 spotter scope to help me find certain things as I am not yet familiar with where things are. But I did enjoy using the EZ finder. It seems as though it will get preferred use after I become more familiar with the skies.
    Does anybody know if the telrad charts will work for this ?
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    Nice report. I used my Baader 10mm last night, but the seeing was rubbish. Very windy too. EP worked good in my small Mak. Very comfortable eye relief. View was sharp all the way to the edges, but I have an f/12. I loved the extended FOV. I looked at the Owl Cluster with it and it filled the EP nicely. Not much else to report of contrast and clarity, cuz like I said, the seeing was bad and I kept getting wind vibrations.

    As for the EZ finder. I use one to get me started with my 9x50 RACI finder. It's too hard to aim the right angle finder. I'd be lost without the EZ finder. But Telrad charts probably won't help alot, cuz you don't have the outer circles like the Telrad does.

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