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    Default Eyepiece needed, perhaps an Orion Edge-on Planetary?



    Oddly enough, my new Orion 3x4, 1.25" Barlow arrived yesterday and the night sky was clear! I was eager to try it out with my Sirius Plossl 10 & 25mm EPs and star diagonal (complimentary with the scope purchase). I dashed like a madman around my yard struggling with my 50 lb scope rig trying to get a peek at the fast descending crescent moon at my neighbor's amusment. I finally caught just a fleeting glimpse with the 25mm, now as an 8.3mm, and was both wowed and bummed as the moon quickly disappeared under the horizon- the best was yet to come! With a dark sky I zeroed in on Saturn which was awesome. I was amazed that although somewhat more dim, Saturn focused in impresively larger with the 10mm, now a 3.3mm, and perhaps took my scope to it's (reasonable) limit, a little over 180x!

    Now my question; Of course I'm looking for the "best bang for the buck" 1.25" EP that will work with my 120ST/f5 and 3x Barlow. Currently I have the 10 & 25mm Sirius Plossl EPs which I believe have an AFOV of 52*. I am a begginer with little experience and would like some suggestions. So for the first time it was very apparent to my the higher the mag of an EP, the dimmer and quicker the object moves from the FOV, along with being harder to focus in on, would that be correct? My budget is up to $175 in my search for a better quality EP. With regards to exit pupil, I am 60 years old and have some astigmatism (wear eyeglasses but not while observing). The best value would most likely be something that is currently "on sale". One of my pet peeves is buying something full price then seeing it on sale 31 days later, but that is all in the game.

    Orion has their Edge-on Planetary EPs on sale but only a couple of reviews, perhaps only one being somewhat useful as the user referenced it (the 14.5mm) as being a good cross-over EP. I think the 14.5mm range would compliment the 10 & 25mm. I do any deep space observations with my collection of 2" EPs, which can not be Barlow'd with my particular scope. Anybody with an opinion on this line of EPs? I know the components of any scope are only good as it's weakest link, and hope the info I've provided is adequate for any helpful suggestions.

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    Default Re: Eyepiece needed, perhaps an Orion Edge-on Planetary?

    I have the 3mm Edge-On planetary and I used it several times with Venus and Jupiter, it gave me 216x, it was a pretty good view. The focusing wasn't easy but I did manage to see the bands and what I remember of the GRS. It also gave me a close up of the moon. If you used the 14.5mm with the 3x barlow, it would give you an effective mag of about 125x and since I think that they are all 52* AFOV, about .42* FOV.
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    Default Re: Eyepiece needed, perhaps an Orion Edge-on Planetary?

    hi rich, i dont buy orion EP,s- i think they're also pricey for all you get, for medium power 12-14mm, id look at the baader hyperion or celestron ultima LX- both run around $120- the luminos have an 82fov and cost around $130 though i never used them, on the cheap side WO makes swan -72fov- for under $80- for high power i wouldnt bother with orion's edge on. look into the zhummel planetary Z for $79 or the TMB planetary for $49, if you gonna get high power from that F/5 scope, id consider the baader moon and skyglow filter stacked with the FK filter, it virtually eliminates CA, its also sold as a more aggessive single filter called the semi-APO,you should also consider a better barlow, i have an 2X ultima here i might let go if you wanna try it sometime

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    Default Re: Eyepiece needed, perhaps an Orion Edge-on Planetary?

    For low power, I'd spend a extra few bucks and get the 24mm ES82 (even the old style is still available at Telescopes.net), used if you can. I'm not a barlow fan, preferring to use different f/l eyepieces, but this will barlow to an 8mm with your barlow (I'd recommend a 2X if you have one, the 3X really starts pushing the mag). For a mid-range, and within your budget would be either the 16mm ES68 or the 11mm ES82 (Some like the 14mm ES82, some have experienced field curvature). Both are around the $100 mark.

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    Thanks for all the responses. The Luminos 15mm looks very impressive, is getting all 5's on the reviews, and is currently on sale so I'm about ready to pull the trigger. I bought the Orion (new product) four element 3x Barlow mainly cause a got a very good price on it (they messed up a previous order), but I gotta tell you, it gives great views and compliments the 120ST very well.

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    Default Re: Eyepiece needed, perhaps an Orion Edge-on Planetary?

    Hey Rich, as an owner of all the Edge-on's, they're pretty good EP's. The AFOV is a bit restrictive compared too all the wide fields these days, but At 55 degrees, they are good from center to edge. Do yourself a favor though, and get the Zhumell's; they are identical EP's at a significant cost savings at Telescopes.com for instance Zhumell Z Series Planetary Telescope Eyepieces - Telescope Eyepieces at Telescopes

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    If your thinking about the Luminos Ep's I would also look for a used Axiom LX..Celestron had the Axioms then changed the name of them to Luminos...same EP's but you can find the Axiom LX cheaper now. I just took my new Axiom LX out last night and it did great in my f/4.9 Dob.

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    Wow, too many to choose from! SkyWriter; you are right, the Zhumell's look suspiciously similar to the Edge Ons at almost half the price! Only thing I don't see Zhumell advertising is Orion's Edge on "focused to the edge" claim, but I would guess they come from the same building somewhere in China. Sportsmed; I saw you're post on the Axiom, that is a massive beast! I did a quick search and came up with Amazon at $149, which is more expensive then the Luminos branding currently on sale. The ES 82* is now popping out at me at $99 on sale. I'm lost. I just want something with the best FOV, clarity, and eye relief I can get. I just want something that will never want me to use that Sirius Plossl again, and I say that with all due respect to SP fans everywhere, I say this to make the point of best quality in my $175 budget. I'm trying to have as few EPs as possible without doing the zoom thing, which seems synonymous to the one size fits all muffler.
    Again, too many options, which is great

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    Go with the ES 68s or 82s. You won't be sorry. For the price, noone else can touch them. I know that the 11mm ES82 performs all as well as my 13mm Nagler Type 1. The 11mm is probably the best of the 1.25" eyepieces in the 82* series, the 24mm is probably the best of the 2". I think you can get the 11mm (or the 14 if you prefer) for $99 each. The 24 is on sale for $199 at "TelescopeS.net", with free shipping. I've ordered from Telescopes.com (Woodland Hills Camera and Telescope) twice recently and had the eyepieces in my hand within 4-5 days from when I placed the order. They are an ES Authorized/Preferred dealer.

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    Yes I agree with csrlice12, the ES 82's are really good EP's. I got the ES 82 11mm and it is my favorite EP. I got the ES 100 9mm but havent got to use it yet. You will be amazed at the difference between your standard plossls and the ES brand. If you can spend about $100 on EP's I would suggest the Explore Scientific brand. The 18mm and up will cost more because they are 2" EP's
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