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    Default New ES 82* 4.7mm & 30mm



    I really have to stop going to the scope store.
    Here Saturday comes and I find myself back at KW Telescope checking out the stock.
    By now I almost could name off the entire EP inventory.L
    After reading AbbNs post on the ES 4.7 I couldnt stop thinking about what really are my wants and
    what really are my needs. The difference has becomed quite blurred.
    At this point I really dont care...
    So I bought myself the 4.7mm knowing that this EP may not get as much use as I would like but I now have it for those times when conditions will allow its use.
    Now...about the 30mm...well I checked it out and I had the cash. What can I say.
    I remembered someone, I think it was skaven, that said that in light polluted skies that an EP with a lower power than a 30mm may not be of much use. So with this in mind I bought this as a replacement for the 30mm in my collection.
    The Baader 36mm aspheric will have to wait a bit longer.
    Without the input from the members here there is no way I could ever make an informed choice when laying out the bucks for what may have to last ..well ..forever.
    And to all members..Thanks.

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    You will really enjoy your EP's. I have the 6.7, 8.8, 14, and 24 with plans for the 18 and 30 which will complete my "set". Ahhrgh if I could just win the bloody Lotto...
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    Hey cbrucker
    I was considering the 6.7 but as I have an 8mm with my zoom I decided on the 4.7.
    I did check out the Pentax 5mm xw (for $330) and the Pentax 28mm xl (discontinued for approx.$375) but
    decided on the two ES EP's instead of one of the Pentax.
    But I swear I'm going to own a Pentax or two one of these days.
    I gotta keep away from the scope store for at least another week! LOL

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    Default Re: New ES 82* 4.7mm & 30mm

    Cheers Bob. But with the ES's why would you need a Pentax?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cbrucker View Post
    Cheers Bob. But with the ES's why would you need a Pentax?
    Oh...I dont know...I hear they are a primo EP and I'd like to find out if that is true.
    I suspect they may have a noticable edge over ES's.
    Do I need that edge?
    I'll use my new glass for a bit then decide if the investment in the pentaxs are really the way to go.

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    Default Re: New ES 82* 4.7mm & 30mm

    Congratulations on getting the 4.7mm. I bought one about a month ago and it has served me well since. I use it mainly to push the envelope on my AR152 because I want to know the max mag it can handle and actually, I'm biased towards using more high power EPs with the 152 most of the time. Or as powerful as I can get away with before the image degrades. I have a few mid to low power EPs; 15, 17 (2"), 24 and a 32mm. At this point I'm working on consolidating my collection with mainly ES eyepieces. The fact I had a mixed bag started to bug me. As I said, I get more out of high power stuff and use the 32 or 25mm for wide field scanning or framing in an expansive target. I found since the scope has only 6" of aperture, it needs all the help it can get pulling in some DSOs. However, there is a point of diminishing returns using a high power EP on a fainter DSO. Believe it or not I have one ES cheapo from a line they had a few years back and used them to supply new telescope packages with. They were 70 degree four or five element EPs that I figured why not so I picked up a used 25mm 2" and I was and still am very happy with it's performance. Woodland Hills telescopes has them listed for sale, they are the only store that I could find that carried the old stock. With them starting at only $39, I'm thinking of picking up one or two because of the price and the good performance of the 25mm I have.

    As I said, I have the 4.7mm and I felt it was too strong for my PST (it worked well for Abb) and since I want to test the limit of the scope, I'm thinking the 6.7mm would be the perfect high power EP for the solar scope. The 8.8mm wouldn't be enough and besides I already have a 9mm and a zoom 7-21mm. But I also need a mid power EP, I do have a gap in that range so I can't decide between the 6.7 and the 11mm at this time. Since the 11mm has such a wide FOV, I figured I can use it for scanning, but ideally I see something around 14mm as a nice match for the 152 for the purpose of tracking down things in the deep sky. I see the 11mm as a compromise of sorts, its wide views complimented by having good magnification as well. I only use as others do the high power EPs once the target has been located unless I'm looking at the moon or planets. With them I start at high power. I want to decide between the 6.7 and 11mm in the next couple days, but regardless of that I'm gonna pick up one of those cheapo ES 70 degree EPs from Woodland Hills. However, I heard a rumor the listing at Woodland was branded a "mistake" and they weren't actually for sale. I'll prove or disprove that once I try to buy one. You ought to check the listing out, very tempting to pull out the credit card in this case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bobble View Post
    Oh...I dont know...I hear they are a primo EP and I'd like to find out if that is true.
    I suspect they may have a noticable edge over ES's.
    Do I need that edge?
    I'll use my new glass for a bit then decide if the investment in the pentaxs are really the way to go.

    Regards
    Bob
    HaHa !

    Bob, let's face it. you are an eyepiece junkie!

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    Isn't everyone ? If money wasn't an issue, I'd happily rush out and get a set of the latest and greatest televue goodies, and see what the Pentax ones are like - but unless I win the lottery I'll probably have to stick with what I've got for the next few years

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    Default Re: New ES 82* 4.7mm & 30mm

    Hey John999R
    I dont think having a mixed bag of EP's will bother me much.
    With the reading of many posts here I find that there is a mindset of some to have
    complete sets from one maufacturer to anchor thier EP collection. I personally don't see it that way.
    I think there is nothing wrong with collecting whatever works no matter who's name is stamped on them.
    Good luck with choosing your next piece of glass.

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    Default Re: New ES 82* 4.7mm & 30mm

    Quote Originally Posted by cbrucker View Post
    Cheers Bob. But with the ES's why would you need a Pentax?
    Perhaps......bragging rights

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