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    Thumbs up Eyepiece bundled sets - are they worth it?



    Hi,

    I have a Skywatcher Explorer 150P which came with a 10mm and 25mm eyepiece and x2 Barlow.

    I saw that the UK distributer is doing a special offer on a boxed eyepiece set, filter and flash light. It contains:

    2mm, 5mm, 15mm & 20mm Long Eye Relief Eyepieces, Four Threaded Light Filters (Amber, Blue, Neutral Grey & Moon Filter) Dual - Beam LED Night Vision Torch, Astronomical Telescope User Guide, in lockable, foam-padded Aluminium Case

    It is from Optical Vision Ltd and they are selling the lot for only £79.00(GBP) - SRP £149.00(GBP).

    See: Skywatcher Newtonian Reflector Telescopes - Reflector Telescopes by OVL

    Now... The flash light would be handy and perhaps the moon filter. Not to sure about the rest but the eyepieces seem a good fitting range for what I already have.

    I like what I already have and wonder if I can get a closure view of Jupiter using the x2 Barlow and 2 or 5mm eyepiece than the 10mm I have?!?

    Is it a waste of money or a good starter set worth getting?!> Has anybody had any experiances with this particular set?

    Thanks in advance.

    Jaq

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    Yes it would be a waste, the EPs are nothing new for what you have in your set, and the 5mm and 2mm would be worthless most nights for your telescope anyways. A flashlight and moon filter you can purchase separately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeiss View Post
    Yes it would be a waste, the EPs are nothing new for what you have in your set, and the 5mm and 2mm would be worthless most nights for your telescope anyways. A flashlight and moon filter you can purchase separately.
    Your opinion is valued. If you were me, looking at my set up, what would you personally invest to assist or improve my viewing experience?

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    hmm, well maybe a good chair if you dont have one already. As far as eyepieces go, upgrading from the standard plossl to something nicer is good. But there are many options. And a lot of it is up to individual preference and scope capabilities.
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    The 2mm and 5mm EPs will not see much use--to high of a magnification.

    The way I see this package is that the case and the flashlight are the most valuable items.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchAlsup View Post
    The 2mm and 5mm EPs will not see much use--to high of a magnification.

    The way I see this package is that the case and the flashlight are the most valuable items.....


    And that,s for sure!!

    Steve....

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    Well, for the cheapest source for a red LED light, have a look in your local pound shop - they often have LED bike rear lights. Other than being rather bright, and having to cycle through a few flashing combos to turn them off, they do fairly well as a cheap-and-cheerful torch :-).

    I can also recommend the head mounted Red LED lights - I picked one up at the last AstroFest, with a diffuser rather than a direct LED - works great for seeing the controls on my DSLR, never shines in your eyes, and leaves both hands free :-).

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    Bargain sets are usually all plossls. Plossls have very limited eye relief on short fl eps. Your 10 mm ep takes you to 75x and the barlow doubles that. Your scope can go to about 230x before it just is magnifying the diffraction limit.

    I would look at a good 8 - 24 zoom. With the barlow that can take you to 187x. After you have used it for 6 months you will know which eps you will want. Be sure to look at eye relief and apparent FOV.

    A nice 6 mm superview with the barlow would give you maximum magnification. Without the barlow it would be the best you can do under most good weather conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kencrowder View Post
    Bargain sets are usually all plossls. Plossls have very limited eye relief on short fl eps. Your 10 mm ep takes you to 75x and the barlow doubles that. Your scope can go to about 230x before it just is magnifying the diffraction limit.

    I would look at a good 8 - 24 zoom. With the barlow that can take you to 187x. After you have used it for 6 months you will know which eps you will want. Be sure to look at eye relief and apparent FOV.

    A nice 6 mm superview with the barlow would give you maximum magnification. Without the barlow it would be the best you can do under most good weather conditions.
    The zoom sounds like a good all round option. Are 3x Barlows any good?

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    On an EQ mount with tracking you can push the magnification toward the upper limit; My Omni, which I bet is almost the same set up, on semi-clear nights I push to 285-300x all of the time, (150mmx750mm) using either a 3mm planetary or a barlowed 5mm planetary which offer plenty of eye relief and 55 degree views.(it's a rare night to view a planet at less than 200x) A 3mm Plossl would be like looking through a key hole. A 25mm and a 32mm plossl is nice for taking in clusters. So, no, I would not go with the boxed set unless you are strapped for cash.

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