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    Default Redundant? (27mm Pan, 31mm Nagler, 35mm Pan)



    hi,

    i currently have 27mm and 35mm panoptic. i also have a 31mm nagler on the way. do these (in theory) look to be a bit redundant? i have yet to try my 35mm pan (and obviously the 31mm). i realize the best way for me to figure this all out is to try all of them together but i am just a bit curious. i figured i would try the 31mm out and see what all the fuss was about. anyone have these three in their case? does the small increment between the 31mm nagler and 35mm pan mag constitute keeping both?

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    My money would be that the 31N surpasses both the 27 and 35 Pans.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchAlsup View Post
    My money would be that the 31N surpasses both the 27 and 35 Pans.
    seems that way. i guess it will come down to whether to sell the 27mm or 35mm (or both).
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    The 31mm Nag and the 35mm Pan, are two great eyepieces. It comes down to 82 degree -vs- 68 degree.
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    Hmm, redundant? I would say so. I would sell off the 35mm and 27mm Panoptics and keep the 31mm Nagler. The 35 and 31 offer comparable ER but like Johann stated, it's up to your preferred FOV. Maybe you've grown tired of using your zoom and would like to try out singles instead? The sale would help fund that venture. Good luck.
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    I own a 27 mm Pan as well as a 35 mm pan plus a Pentax 30 mm... I do not think any of them are redundant at all...as I use all 3 a heck of a lot...

    All 3 of these eyepieces are 68 degree FOV eyepieces which I PERSONALLY prefer over 82 degree FOV eyepieces which I find too uncomfortable to use because my own eyes have to shift all over the place to get a view of the entire FOV...

    Sold off my few Naglers years ago to buy Pans and Pentax XW's

    Eyepieces are so very "personal" its hard to recommend any specific one to anyone

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    The general rule of thumb is that in order to see any appreciable difference, you step up magnification by a factor of at least 1.4. Meaning that in your scope, with the 35mm Pan giving you 43x, the next meaningful step would 43 X 1.4 = 60x. The 27mm Pan gives you 56x, which would be about right in line with that reasoning. That would mean keeping the 35 and 27 Pans and getting rid of the Nagler, or keeping the Nagler and selling off the Pans. It really does come down to which AFOV you prefer. After trying the Nagler you might find you really like the 82 deg view. I can tell you, I was a little concerned about switching from the Hyperions (68 deg) to the ES 82 series. But when I compared them, I found I much preferred the 82 deg. Looking into the Hyperions then seemed more like looking into a soda straw. But as Bob said, the wider AFOV isn't for everyone and EPs are very personal choices. After you try them all, you may find you want to keep all three. My honest opinion is that keeping all three is indeed redundant, but you have to test them all out and make that final determination. Whichever way you go, I do believe you will be very happy as all three have very good reputations. Hope that helps.

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    The 31mm nagler is a really wonderful ep, one of my favourites. It will give a wider fov than the 35mm with a little more magnification so pretty much makes that one redundant. The 27mm is probably one to make your mind up after comparing side by side. It gives a small step up in magnification but it's still fairly close so may not offer any significant difference. Nice problem to have though :-)

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