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    Default Nagler Type 1 vs Type 6 - big diff?



    I have an older 9mm Nagler type 1 EP that I am considering selling to purchase a used type 6.

    With my type 1, I get a lot of kidney bean blackout & don't find it as usefull as I would like.

    Is it worth the swap?
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    Hope this article helps in comparing the two types.

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    Thanks Alan, interesting article

    [I]Myth #3 – I just bought a 9mm Type 2
    The 9mm gets the vote for “Most confused Nagler.” Several folks seem to think that there is a 9mm T2, and I’ve heard a few confused souls even claim they purchased a 9mm T3. This is NOT the case. If you have a 9mm and it's not a T6, it's a T1. Tele Vue added eye guards, grip rings and such over the years, dramatically changing the look, but they remained t1’s.[/I]

    Hmm, this sounds like the optics are identical, they just changed the look. So a newer T6 would not benefit me according to this information.

    Does anyone here own both types that could comment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by warmvet View Post
    With my type 1, I get a lot of kidney bean blackout & don't find it as usefull as I would like.
    At night, kidney beaning was very visible in the 13mm T1, almost invisible in the 11mm T1, and I seriously doubt you are seeing it in a 9mm T1 unless you are using af F/3 or faster optical system or you have pupils that don't dialatte over 4mm when fully dark adapted.

    All of the T1 will show kidney beaning in full daylight where the eye pupil is as small as 1.5mm, especially with fast optical systems.

    Aside from the beloved 11mm T1, the 9mm is the crown jewel in the T1 range.

    {I cannot comment on the T6 as I have never looked through one.}

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    Thanks Mitch - I do definitely get a black out, I will need to pay attention to where my eye is positioned when this occurs. My scope is f/4.8 & I am sure my older eyes don't dilate as they used to.

    Would really like to see a side by side comparison
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    Default Re: Nagler Type 1 vs Type 6 - big diff?

    Got my stuff out the other night looking at Jupiter.......and I forgot to try out the 11T1!!!! Just recently picked it up and forgot all about it.....
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    Default Re: Nagler Type 1 vs Type 6 - big diff?

    A picture is worth a thousand words. Also back to the OP, the optics have been redesigned from lessons learned from the Radians, but the biggest difference between the T1 & T6 is the actual size and weight of the eyepiece.





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    Default Re: Nagler Type 1 vs Type 6 - big diff?

    sorry this is a little blurry but this is the EP I have, its stamped Taiwan not Japan, any difference in quality?
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    And this is interesting information
    http://www.cloudynights.com/item.php?item_id=2342
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    Default Re: Nagler Type 1 vs Type 6 - big diff?

    I don't think there is a quality difference as all Tele Vue eyepieces, Japan vs. Taiwan, still have to meet Uncle Al's desired specifications. I have also noticed differences in font in some of the smoothie T1's...

    Check out this thread:
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    Default Re: Nagler Type 1 vs Type 6 - big diff?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimi View Post
    I don't think there is a quality difference as all Tele Vue eyepieces, Japan vs. Taiwan, still have to meet Uncle Al's desired specifications. I have also noticed differences in font in some of the smoothie T1's...

    Check out this thread:
    Telescope Reviews: Difference between type 1 & 6 Nagler 9mm EP? *DELETED*

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    Could you explain further on the lettering differences on the smoothie T1s? I know they added eyecups and rubber grips, but did not realize the smoothsides themselves had differing versions....
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