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    Hi, I have just bought a 6/8se mount and also a Celestron 6" XLT Schmidt Cassegrain Tube. It will be coming witha 25mm Elux plossl.
    What other kind of eye pieces and sizes should I start to look out for? and should i also look out for a barlow and dew shield?

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    I can almost guarantee you that you will need a dew shield...Scts are just plain Dew magnets...but at least they are not expensive and you can even make your own out of plain cardboard ..

    A Zhumell or Celestron 8 to 24 Zoom is also a good start they are both very cheap .Then after your wallet recovers I'd add a 30 or 32 mm eyepiece and you should be all set ..

    With the zoom and the 30/32 mm eyepiece you should have all your bases covered and there would be no need for a barlow..

    Start investigation chairs... They are more valuable then any darn eyepiece by far Honest..they are for you eyes..NOT your tail end...

    If you can hammer a nail in then google a "LYBAR" Chair

    Ingenious name... (L)ift (Y)our (B)utt (A)nd (R)otate ...lol ...But do not laugh when you see what it looksklike ..looks are very deceiving ..you will find it an extremely solid and extremely cheap as well as an
    very adjustable Observation...

    also google the Denver Chair...its a lot more popular then the Lybar..although I personally tossed my Denver chair away and now use a Lybar when I view from the lawn or at a local star party I always use use a Lybar


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob327 View Post
    I can almost guarantee you that you will need a dew shield...Scts are just plain Dew magnets...but at least they are not expensive and you can even make your own out of plain cardboard ..

    A Zhumell or Celestron 8 to 24 Zoom is also a good start they are both very cheap .Then after your wallet recovers I'd add a 30 or 32 mm eyepiece and you should be all set ..

    With the zoom and the 30/32 mm eyepiece you should have all your bases covered and there would be no need for a barlow..

    Start investigation chairs... They are more valuable then any darn eyepiece by far Honest..they are for you eyes..NOT your tail end...

    If you can hammer a nail in then google a "LYBAR" Chair

    Ingenious name... (L)ift (Y)our (B)utt (A)nd (R)otate ...lol ...But do not laugh when you see what it looksklike ..looks are very deceiving ..you will find it an extremely solid and extremely cheap as well as an
    very adjustable Observation...

    also google the Denver Chair...its a lot more popular then the Lybar..although I personally tossed my Denver chair away and now use a Lybar when I view from the lawn or at a local star party I always use use a Lybar


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    Thanks for the info, is the zoom eyepiece as good as a set of eyepieces?, ie are individuals better?, what advantage does wide FOV eyepieces give you?

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    The zoom eyepiece will be very close. If you want to drop some coin, go for the baader hyperion zoom. They are higher quality than the meade/zhumell, but cost a great deal more. Any choice will serve you well.
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    The big advantage with the zoom EPs is that you do not need to keep reaching for eyepieces to swap out which is especially nice if you are prone to the dropsies Also makes it nice when you have a filter (like a variable polarizer for lunar/planetary viewing) as you don't need to constantly move it from one eyepiece to the next.
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    Congratulations on your new telescope. Celestron's six inch CAT is an excellent scope.

    Ditto everything said by Bob and the others including the chair. One very nice thing about SCTs is that they are not as finicky about eyepiece quality as are fast telescopes. The Celestron zoom eyepiece is optically excellent but the Baader Hyperion zoom is, well the Mercedes, optically and mechanically.

    My three most used eyepieces are a 32mm, 12.4mm, and 9.7mm. Seeing conditions very seldom support eyepieces shorter than 9mm. The 25mm eyepieces that came with the my telescopes are seldom if never used.

    A 0.63 focal reducer is also nice for viewing objects that benefit from a wide field of view such as M45 and many other deep space objects. Celestron has an excellent one as does Meade and Hirsch. Hirsch is less than $100.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dmbryan View Post
    The zoom eyepiece will be very close. If you want to drop some coin, go for the baader hyperion zoom. They are higher quality than the meade/zhumell, but cost a great deal more. Any choice will serve you well.
    I have seen a Baader Hyperion Zoom for around £165, do you think that is the way to go over buying a couple of eyepieces?
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    Here is the Celestron zoom at £76.62

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    Here is a link to a comparison of zoom eyepieces available in the UK. Zoom Eyepieces - A direct comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sxinias View Post
    Congratulations on your new telescope. Celestron's six inch CAT is an excellent scope.

    Ditto everything said by Bob and the others including the chair. One very nice thing about SCTs is that they are not as finicky about eyepiece quality as are fast telescopes. The Celestron zoom eyepiece is optically excellent but the Baader Hyperion zoom is, well the Mercedes, optically and mechanically.

    My three most used eyepieces are a 32mm, 12.4mm, and 9.7mm. Seeing conditions very seldom support eyepieces shorter than 9mm. The 25mm eyepieces that came with the my telescopes are seldom if never used.

    A 0.63 focal reducer is also nice for viewing objects that benefit from a wide field of view such as M45 and many other deep space objects. Celestron has an excellent one as does Meade and Hirsch. Hirsch is less than $100.
    Hi, thanks for the help so far, if you were me would you buy 3 eyepices or get a baader hyperion zoom?, some guy said I shouldn't use the zoom on a slow scope?, he said I would lose detail due to the low light of an F10 scope?. He also said they have a narrower AFOV?, you can tell I am a newbie on this

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    Hi i'm pretty much a newbie myself. For me wide field of view is really important - the bigger the better. I replaced the standard 24 mm eyepiece that came with my SE4 with a baader hyperion one and the difference is like chalk and cheese. Individual baader hyperions have an apparent field of view of 68degrees.

    the mag you get from your scope = focal length (mm)/focal length of eyepiece(mm)

    The true field of view = apparent field of view/mag

    If you get a big field of view with your low power (long) eyepieces you will find locating objects much easier. If your low power is only giving you a true fov of a degree or less your goto will have to be deadly accurate to find objects straight away and you could find it very frustrating as if it is outside your view by just a fraction you might find it very difficult to locate. That was a major problem for me with the original EP on my scope, its small apparent field of view meant that my true FoV was just too small and it was very frustrating often just not finding things. When i get my next scope i'm going to make sure that i can get at least 2.5 degrees FoV preferably more ( it could mean investing in a very expensive long FL eyepiece) - then for example you can see the whole of the pleiades rather than just a couple of the stars.
    If you are interested there is a 24 mm hyperion HERE I got a brand new 17mm one from the same seller last week for £75 so can vouch for them. (they are at least £95 or more in the shops)

    edit ; in my limited experience it seems that spending as much as you can afford on eyepieces is worth it - afterall even in the future if you upgrade or get a 2nd scope you can keeping using those quality EPs and the view of the night sky is what you are fundamentally interested in
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