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    Question hyperion zoom as a starter EP?



    Hi everyone,

    I'm about to pull the trigger on an Orion XT10i purchase. This forum has been incredibly helpful in "refining" my order -- don't think I'll be getting that color filter set right away (see the Worthless Accessories thread).

    What do you all think about a Hyperion Zoom as a "starter" eyepiece, instead of trying to get a range of Plossels? Any concerns with this approach for an amateur?

    If you had to choose one Orion-brand eyepiece in addition to the Hyperion Zoom (for the Orion Build-A-Scope option), would you recommend a high-power or low-power? (I would love a low power, high AFOV, but not sure how great the Orion brands are in this category, so maybe wait?).

    Thanks for your advice!

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    for now,i'd stick with what comes
    with the scope,and get the hyperion zoom.
    they're a good ep.
    maybe think about a 2X barlow aswell and you'll
    be pretty much set for quite some time to come.
    if they're offering a low power ep with the scope,
    then go with one of those too.
    the ep's they supply with the scopes are not rubbish,
    but neither are they top quality.
    they will suffice until you get some experience behind you
    and then you can decide what you NEED.
    only filter i would suggest is a moon filter,you will need one.
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    IMO the great thing about a zoom is it gives you the ability to get at least some idea as to the 'power' of the eyepeices that work best with your scope. Once you get a feel for this you can always purchase a dedicated eyepiece of that size. However I have found that my zoom is also my 'go to' eyepiece.
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    It's pick up a cheap 2" widefield EP like the 30mm GSO Superview that comes with the Z10. I find it's the EP I use most often with my scope.

    Edit: Didn't notice it had to be Orion branded. If you're willing to try something else, this Meade eyepiece at Agena might be a great compliment to the Hyperion Zoom. http://agenaastro.com/meade-series-4...-eyepiece.html
    At $45 with free shipping, it's hard to argue with the price.
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    I have the zoom and love it. Also the Meade eyepiece above that DaveW posted looks just like the Orion Q70 that I have, but a lot cheaper. I have been using the zoom and 32MM since Dec. and think its a great set up. So easy to transport, you can also use the zoom in 2in mode.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turing test View Post
    Hi everyone,

    I'm about to pull the trigger on an Orion XT10i purchase. This forum has been incredibly helpful in "refining" my order -- don't think I'll be getting that color filter set right away (see the Worthless Accessories thread).

    What do you all think about a Hyperion Zoom as a "starter" eyepiece, instead of trying to get a range of Plossels? Any concerns with this approach for an amateur?

    If you had to choose one Orion-brand eyepiece in addition to the Hyperion Zoom (for the Orion Build-A-Scope option), would you recommend a high-power or low-power? (I would love a low power, high AFOV, but not sure how great the Orion brands are in this category, so maybe wait?).

    Thanks for your advice!

    I have the MK II Baader 8-24mm zoom and recommend it as a general use eyepiece. My only concern is that at 20-24mm end of zoom travel the 49-50deg FOV is a bit tight. However at the 8-12mm end of zoom FOV increases out to close on 70deg (at 8mm). The optic is as sharp through the range as many high end single focal length
    eyepieces,particularly at the 8-12mm end.

    I also have the GSO 30mm 2" Superview which gives a nice wide field of view,useful when searching for items of interest. Also have the GSO 42mm 2" Superview but exit pupil too big for me (over 8mm for my 14" f5 dob).

    Stephen (From down under [42deg south].

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    Hi Adam,

    Looks like I got my message re; Baader zoom etc immersed somehow when I attempted to pick up your earlier message as a quote. See my reply above.

    Stephen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sopticals View Post
    Hi Adam,

    Looks like I got my message re; Baader zoom etc immersed somehow when I attempted to pick up your earlier message as a quote. See my reply above.

    Stephen.
    Hi Stephen,

    I'm going to try to quote for the first time on this forum .. let's see how this turns out.

    Thanks for your message (I was able to parse it, no worries) -- after your description I'm especially looking forward to trying out the Hyperion Zoom.

    BTW, I did visit NZ a few years ago. I remember the dark skies, especially on the north island, but the unfamiliar constellations were unexpectedly disturbing. A lovely and hospitable country, you are fortunate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaveW View Post
    It's pick up a cheap 2" widefield EP like the 30mm GSO Superview that comes with the Z10. I find it's the EP I use most often with my scope.

    Edit: Didn't notice it had to be Orion branded. If you're willing to try something else, this Meade eyepiece at Agena might be a great compliment to the Hyperion Zoom.
    At $45 with free shipping, it's hard to argue with the price.
    Hi Dave,

    No argument here! I wasn't going to get a wide field EP at all yet, but for $45 total, that's hard to resist, even just to try it out in my own setup.

    And I did order the Hyperion Zoom, thanks to you and everyone's recommendations! Ordered these from Agena, so they are actually arriving before the first pieces of the Orion dobsonian.

    Because I had to order at least one EP from Orion (perhaps they don't want to field calls like, "I look down the tube and I can't see anything"), I chose a 5mm Stratus for a wider AFOV and to round out the set of 3.

    Thanks to everyone who replied!

    --Adam

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    What a great choice of EPs. I would be interested in comments when swapping out the BHZ at 8mm, and putting in the 5mm Orion. I am particularly interested in eye relief comments. (How "comfortable" are the two compared to each other?)
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