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    Default Barlow-Shorty vs Shorty Plus



    Hi Gang,
    Seems there hasn't been a good barlow thread in a few hours so let me get the ball rolling:


    After reading endlessly about barlows, I managed to find a Japanese made Orion Shorty Plus 2x barlow on ebay.
    I paid 'a little more' than I wanted to but I knew I had an item of quality and distinction.
    It's great and I love it. Well, I like it-can you love a barlow?

    Fast forward to my new Telescope and Orion included the current Shorty barlow.
    Initially I was going to sell the new barlow, however now I am not sure.

    The new standard Shorty is threaded for filters-this seems useful to me as I will be doing planetary observation.

    The Shorty Plus does not have this thread, although supposedly the image is a better quality.
    I will have to try some comparisons when I can, but I wonder honestly if I will be able to tell the difference?

    I think I may consider selling the Japanese Shorty Plus.

    Hmmmm, is it totally subjective or does someone have solid reasons for why I might keep either (or both?)
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    Default Re: Barlow-Shorty vs Shorty Plus

    Subjective? Certainly.

    On Orion's site, they make a big deal out of Chromatic Aberration (CA) reduction with the Plus version. Here comes a news flash for Orion... CA is not an issue with Newtonians.

    While I have a sock drawer full of 'em (), I haven't used a Barlow in years. I'd think the regular "Shorty" would be just fine.

    There's my very subjective answer.
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    Default Re: Barlow-Shorty vs Shorty Plus

    The first line of your post made me LOL.

    The Orion Shorty is an OK barlow. It will get you by. If I ever decide to use a barlow again, I wouldn't use anything other than the Televue 2x barlow.

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    Default Re: Barlow-Shorty vs Shorty Plus

    I use the "long" Barlow since its required on a 8"dob so I can do afocal AP, shorty does not work for that. So depends on the scope you have what works
    I use my 3X allot, planets and moon, love it
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    Default Re: Barlow-Shorty vs Shorty Plus

    Quote Originally Posted by iban3z View Post
    The first line of your post made me LOL.

    The Orion Shorty is an OK barlow. It will get you by. If I ever decide to use a barlow again, I wouldn't use anything other than the Televue 2x barlow.
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    I sure am not going to knock the Televue 2x Barlow because its just plain good....

    BUT I happen to carry a Televue 2x Barlow in my eyepiece case...which I got as a throw in when I purchased a used scope... Over the years (over 60 ) of owning and using telescopes all I can say is the ONLY reason I carry that Barlow (which is very very rarely used) is because of those green Letters plastered on it... In all honestly it is no better nor any worst than and 20 years or less old brand named Barlow I have ever used....

    SERIOUSLY... IT may be technically better but my old eyes can not tell any difference at all ....

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    Default Re: Barlow-Shorty vs Shorty Plus

    I will try and compare next time I'm out.
    I'm not sure if after swapping out attachments my (untrained) eyes will recognise the difference.
    I may put my rare and sought after Orion Shorty PLUS up for sale soon.
    Orion XT8 Plus (it's blue). Skymaster 15x70
    GSO 32mm & 9mm Plossl + Orion Shorty Plus x2 + Revelation Astro Moon Filter - it say's 'premium' on the box
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