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Old 08-27-2008, 03:34 AM
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Hello guys,
Im trying to compile a list of easy (and great) double stars.

Actually right now i dont know of many but will get back to you here.

Please let me know which ones to add.

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I've observed only two: Mizar is the middle of the handle in the Big Dipper, and Alberio is the head of the swan in Cygnus. Both are honeys!
I am eagerly looking forward to observing the famous double double near Vega in Lyra. From the charts it appears just to the left as you're looking up.
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Hi - I have a personal list of about 50 that I'm currently working my way through.

It's in excel file format - if you want it, PM me your e-mail addy and I'll send it.
Actually - anybody else wants it, you're welcome, just PM me your email.
(I'm off out in a few minutes, so please allow a couple of hours for a reply)

For now though, a couple off the top of my head...
Michael, if you like Albireo, try Almach in Andromeda.
It's tighter then Albireo at 10 arcsec separartion (Albireo is 34 arcsec) - but is also a yellow-blue pairing - In Almach, the yellow/orange star is a deeper orange then Albireo, and the blue is a paler colour.

Epsilon Lyra - the double-double - is a beauty
It's VERY easy to see as a double, even with binocs - but those two are themselves VERY tight doubles, only about 2.5 arcsec separation each.
120x or better required for a clean split

Castor - in Gemini is a tight-ish double (4 arcsec) - two white stars magnitude 2 and 3 - with a dim (9th magnitude) orange star, just over an arcninute away.

Algieba, in Leo - Yellow and Orange double, mag 2.5 and about 4 - about 4"

Eta Cassiopeia - yellow and red, mag 4 and 7, separation 13"

And many people don't realise, but Polaris is also a double.
Yellow mag 2 primary, with a faint blue companion (mag 9) about 18" away - difficult to see the secondary so close in to the glare of the primary
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Just a quick update...
I've had a look at my doubles list - I didn't realise, but it's now up to about 70 entries - including maybe 7 or 8 systems of more than 2 stars.

This isn't a definitive list by any means, and I add to it as and when I find new doubles/multiples - and I also have a couple of links that I've yet to sort through for new ones (other people's lists)

Splitting doubles is something I only just got into recently - my main interest for a long time has been star clusters, so I have quite a few other lists which may be of interest to some people...
The Caldwell list - Messier (obviously) - Herschel's 400 - The Collinder list of 471 open clusters - and a few others.

And last year I put together a list for myself of all the ngc-designated deep sky objects that it's feasible to see from between 45°N and 60°N - with a 10" scope.
I call it my "1200 Northern NGCs" - and I'm expecting it to keep me busy for many years to come.

As I said, my double/multiple star list is far from finished at the moment - but anyone who wants a copy as it is at the moment, is more than welcome

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Double-star list now up to 113, plus 8 multiple systems

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thanks for the update, i will try and update the SOD database here
Sky Object Database SOD
with some doubles.
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This thread has prompted me to dig deeper for double stars.

This morning I went through SkyAtlas 2000 and noted down all the stars marked as doubles, that have either a bayer letter, or flamsteed number designation - and that aren't already in my list.
A further 270 of them
No doubt though, quite a large percentage will probably be too close to see the split with an amateur scope - so the next step is to check them all out using 'Starry Night pro', and I'll add all those that have 1 arcsec separation or more, to my list.
It'll probably take a while to do (gonna start tonight), but I'll update here when I'm finished, and have my definitive list.

*note*
Sadly my list won't all be usable to those in the Southern hemisphere - From Europe, and most of USA, anything below -30° declination is down in the murk that hangs above the horizon - so -30° dec is the lower limit for stuff on any observing lists that I put together myself.
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thats a big list Carlos!

are they the best ones? would love to see that list
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Hey guys,
Carlos do you have viewing notes with that list?

just updated the SOD with doubles:
Sky Object Database SOD

I will try and add more features to it so thats its more useful..
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Hi Guys
Not been too well for a couple of days, but I have continued and finished my personal 'doubles' list.
As I said further up, It's not a definitive list by any means - but is simply a list of the doubles and multiples that have a 'flamsteed' and/or 'bayer' designation, that are possible for me to view from my home location (lower declination limit of -30°) - I've also left out doubles with a seperation of less than 1 arcsec
Less than 3 arcsec requires big aperture or great optics - less than 1 arcsec requires big aperture, great optics, high magnification and very good 'seeing (atmospheric steadiness)
I'm talking about getting a clean split here, with a definite gap between the stars - It's possible sometimes to see an 'elongation', or maybe even a 'peanut' shape, to many tight doubles, but it isn't a clean split unless you can see some 'black' between the stars.
I have a 10" dob, and a 4" apo-chromatic refractor - both of which can do a 'clean' 1 arcsec seperation on a good night, but less than 1 arcsec and they begin to struggle - so anything under 1 arcsec has been left out of my list.

The finished list has at 265 doubles, and 23 multiple systems.
Ranging from 'very easy', through to 'challenging' - so that even experienced observers might find it useful - and it could feasibly keep a beginner busy for years.

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Carlos do you have viewing notes with that list?
Sorry, no 'viewing notes' as such...
The list, as it stands has the constellation and the bayer/flamsteed designation - the 'proper' name If the star has one) - magnitudes of the elements - seperation (in arcseconds) - the colours of the stars - and the minimum magnification required to get a clean split (this assumes good optics and good sky conditions - in reality it often takes more than the theoretical minimum to successfully get a clean split)
And if you print out the excel sheet - there's also a box where you can tick them off as you 'bag' them.
There are a LOT on the list that I haven't viewed myself yet - I'm only recently getting interested in doubles, after being a big cluster fan for a good few years - I might add notes as and when I view them - but that will be a long, slow process.

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thats a big list Carlos!

are they the best ones? would love to see that list
It does include the best ones - but has many, many more, as well as the best ones.
As a general rule of thumb for picking out the best ones - look for those which have a seperation between about 3" and 45", and have stars of contrasting colours.
Examples:
Albireo in Cygnus - 34" sep, yellow primary, blue secondary
Almach in Andromeda - 10" sep, orange primary, pale blue secondary
eta Cassiopeia - 13" sep, yellow primary, red secondary

The vast majority of viewable stars fall in the colour range from white, through 'cream', and 'yellow-ish' - so the most interesting doubles to view, tend to be those with red, orange, or blue elements.
In fact, in England 150 years ago, 'colourful double observing' was a big fashion trend among rich Victorian 'gentleman' astronomers.

If anyone wants the list, send me a PM with your e-mail address.
I'd also recommend my '1200 Northern NGCs' list for anyone interested in deep-sky observing.
A list of every NGC-categorized object, that you can feasibly see from 45°-60° North, with an amateur 8"-10" scope.

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Another update

I have just acquired a huge list of double stars. The guy who compiled it used Burnham's celestial handbook, as well as Otto and FGW Struve's lists.
Unfortunately, it's in a paper 'hardcopy' format, so would be awkward to upload here.
In quiet times over the last few days, I've compared it with my own list of doubles - and have removed duplicates, as well as weeding out those which are too close to split or have very dim components.
I'm left with a total of just over 1200 double/multiple star systems within the following limits:-
At least 1 arcsec separation
Primary component at least mag 8
Cutoff of mag 12 for dim components
Lowest declination limit of -35°
(The compiler of the large list is in Netherlands, an I personally don't know the Southern sky well enough to make much of a Southern list)

I'm gonna be typing this lot up, into Excel, in the near future - list will include magnitudes, separations, angular positions, Co-ordinates (RA/dec), and colours of many entries.

Anyone interested in the finished list, watch this space - I'll update here when I'm finished.
Don't hold your breath though - I'm expecting this to take quite a while to type in - LOL
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