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    Default No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?



    Inside the first meeting of the committee to colonize the Red Planet

    No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go? - Scientific American
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    Default Re: No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?

    Wow, great read!
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    Default Re: No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?

    Fascinating Cadar, thanks!
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    Default Re: No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?

    "The workshop’s biggest split, however, proved to be the rift that developed between two factions arguing over how to treat Mars when and if they got there. Conservationists were willing to handicap human exploration for the sake of keeping the planet a pristine nature preserve; Colonials wished to prospect and settle Mars for both scientific and economic gains. Their clash marked an early battle in what could someday become a war for the planet’s future."

    In his Red/Green/Blue Mars trilogy (which I can recommend), Kim Stanley Robinson has just that scenario. I very much doubt if we will ever have much impact on Mars though, regardless.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pikaia View Post
    "The workshop’s biggest split, however, proved to be the rift that developed between two factions arguing over how to treat Mars when and if they got there. Conservationists were willing to handicap human exploration for the sake of keeping the planet a pristine nature preserve; Colonials wished to prospect and settle Mars for both scientific and economic gains. Their clash marked an early battle in what could someday become a war for the planet’s future."

    In his Red/Green/Blue Mars trilogy (which I can recommend), Kim Stanley Robinson has just that scenario. I very much doubt if we will ever have much impact on Mars though, regardless.

    KSR's Mars trilogy is absolutely brilliant. One of my favourite sci-fi stories, in fact. And it's amazing how close to the reality it is.
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    Default Re: No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?

    The best articles are those that poke holes in preconceptions, and for me this one was excellent. If I were asked this question before reading this, I would have said to go where there is water close to the surface, the poles. The logistics of launching from a site without helpful centripetal motion didn't even occur, nor did the difficult landing at high elevations where air is less dense. So, I can see how a first mission should be designed to be easy, low risk, successful, with low mortality.

    Having said that, Captain Cook was definitely in the "all you gotta do" camp. And I remember when Kennedy announced the mission to the moon, he said that the very reason for going was because it is hard.
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    Default Re: No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?

    One of the many obstacles that any manned expeditions to Mars are going to have to overcome before they can safely put boots on the surface.

    Will astronauts travelling to Mars remember much of it? That's the question concerning scientists probing a phenomenon called "space brain." Scientists have found that exposure to highly energetic charged particles -- much like those found in the galactic cosmic rays that will bombard astronauts during extended space flights -- causes significant long-term brain damage in test rodents, resulting in cognitive impairments and dementia.

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    Here's a possible solution. In fact one of the better solutions to the problem of cosmic ray exposure is the usage of lava tubes on Mars for colonies.

    On the flight and during the stay on Moon or Mars, the astronauts have to be protected against long exposure to cosmic radiation that might cause cancer. Scientists are testing whether Moon and Mars regolith can be used to build shieldings for ground stations.

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    Default Re: No Man's Land: Where on Mars Should Astronauts Go?

    Surely, the Cydonia region needs exploring ? That's as fascinating as any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicSoul View Post
    Surely, the Cydonia region needs exploring ? That's as fascinating as any.
    Pareidolia is not a good reason to go search a region, least of all when it will cost us hundreds of billions to get there. We need solid scientific reasons. Just to be clear, there is no "face" or "pyramids" or indeed any other indication of any artificial structures of any kind whatsoever anywhere on Mars, let alone in the Cydonia region. It's just optical illusions and wishful thinking.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydonia_(region_of_Mars)
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