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    Quote Originally Posted by Justinmcg67 View Post
    Either way, I think Earth is screwed.
    I find all this talk of the End of the Earth quite optimistic actually.
    The Moon leaving, the Sun dying, Andromeda's merger...

    People talk about these events as if they were going to happen next month.

    A million years is an awfully long time.
    Multiply that by 5, and humans weren't even around 5 million years ago.
    Now multiply 5 million by 1,000, and you get 5 billion years.

    Heck, the way things are going down here, I'll be surprised if humanity makes it to the next century!

    So keep up the chatter on what'll happen when Andromeda "crashes" into us (probaly nothing, as was stated above).
    Just imagining humanity having made it that long (and what it would take for us to stop acting so idiotically) makes me feel really good!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Voyager3 View Post
    I find all this talk of the End of the Earth quite optimistic actually.
    The Moon leaving, the Sun dying, Andromeda's merger...

    People talk about these events as if they were going to happen next month.

    A million years is an awfully long time.
    Multiply that by 5, and humans weren't even around 5 million years ago.
    Now multiply 5 million by 1,000, and you get 5 billion years.

    Heck, the way things are going down here, I'll be surprised if humanity makes it to the next century!

    So keep up the chatter on what'll happen when Andromeda "crashes" into us (probaly nothing, as was stated above).
    Just imagining humanity having made it that long (and what it would take for us to stop acting so idiotically) makes me feel really good!
    I was more making reference to the planet. Not humans. The Earth, not people, will be screwed with whichever happens first. I imagine human beings be long forgotten by the time any of this actually happens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KT4HX View Post
    From my research I believe we are somewhat dependent upon the moon from the aspect of the promotion of life and evolution as we know it, and relative climate stabilization. The moon gives us a reasonably stable axial tilt, thus promoting a smoothing out of the climates over the course of time to allow life to better vary and flourish.
    Thanks for providing some plausibility for the argument that live on Earth is dependent on the Moon's existence. I have seen the claim often enough, but with no reasoning to back it up.

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    The last I heard as the Moon moves further from the Earth it is also slowing its rotation. That would make for longer nights for viewing.
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    This discussion made me think of the old Zager and Evans song In the Year 2525

    In the year 2525
    If man is still alive
    If woman can survive
    They may find
    In the year 3535
    Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lies
    Everything you think, do, and say
    Is in the pill you took today

    In the year 4545
    Ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
    You won't find a thing to chew
    Nobody's gonna look at you

    In the year 5555
    Your arms are hanging limp at your sides
    Your legs got nothing to do
    Some machine is doing that for you

    In the year 6565
    Ain't gonna need no husband, won't need no wife
    You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
    From the bottom of a long glass tube' Whoooa

    In the year 7510
    If God's a-comin' he ought to make it by then
    Maybe he'll look around himself and say
    Guess it's time for the Judgement day

    In the year 8510
    God is gonna shake his mighty head then
    He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
    Or tear it down and start again

    In the year 9595
    I'm kinda wondering if man is gonna be alive
    He's taken everything this old earth can give
    And he ain't put back nothing

    Now it's been 10,000 years
    Man has cried a billion tears
    For what he never knew
    Now man's reign is through
    But through eternal night
    The twinkling of starlight
    So very far away
    Maybe it's only yesterday

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    In the year 3535
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    Quote Originally Posted by pederv View Post
    The last I heard as the Moon moves further from the Earth it is also slowing its rotation. That would make for longer nights for viewing.
    This is possibly the greatest thing ever! More viewing will be awesome!
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    I imagine that by the time the moon gets far enough away from the earth for noticeable changes to occur man will have either been evicted from the planet or mastered his surroundings so that negative impacts can be negated. Assuming we survive we will have found a new home long before the sun grows into a red giant.

    But right now I just hope mankind gets through the next 20-30 years without doing anything stupid. After that I won't be around to care one way or the other.
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    That's true, all of us probably don't have to deal with the human race survival situation. So it's something we may not have to worry about. Our grandchildren or great grandchildren maybe. Something within the next century is where things may go wrong, I don't know?

    Unless we learn the new things that will benefit us in the long run.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KeithBC View Post
    Well, the tides would be smaller. It wouldn't be too hard to calculate roughly how much smaller.



    There's no reason to think that the Moon receeding to a greater distance or leaving the Earth's orbit altogether would have any more than a minor effect on the Earth. It makes our life interesting, but we are not dependent on it.
    Would it not have an effect on the earth's climate?

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    First, it's NOT an explosion -- the sun will "puff" off it's outer layers. Second, by then the Earth AND the moon will be tidally locked. I would not worry much about it unless you intend to be here to watch the event unfold over millions of years --- in about 4-5 billion years.

    Before the sun actually starts to expand into a red giant it will brighten and basically boil off the oceans of the Earth. All life on Earth will be long dead by the time it actually starts expanding out to just about encompass the Earth's orbit.
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