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    Well said, Schlayer.
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    If their is other life, anything liking to us they better be quite. And find another method of transmitting data, or signals. The futher away from us the better their chance of long term survival.

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    Events that are more probable, tend to occur quickly, and conversely. Now, simple microbes "bio-generated" on earth geologically quickly, within the first half-billion-years, or first 10%, of our world's existence, with their micro-fossil remains appearing amongst earth's oldest-and-still-surviving rocks. Er go, the bio-genesis of alien microbes is plausibly "likely", so that alien microbes are plausibly "common".

    However, the emergence of complex multi-cellular organisms, e.g. plants, fungi, animals, only occurred in the last half-billion-years, or last 10%, of earth's history. Er go, alien organisms are plausibly "unlikely", and are plausibly "uncommon".

    However-to-the-however, once animals emerge, they then evolve to become increasingly complex, increasingly sophisticated, and increasingly intelligent, geologically rapidly, e.g. sponges-to-humans in <10% of our world's age. Thus, once animals emerge, then selective evolutionary pressures promote a "biological Moore's Law", of "exponential growth", of intelligence, towards a "biological singularity", e.g. humans & tool-use & technology, geologically rapidly, i.e. time-scales of hundreds of millions of years. And then, once a "biological singularity" is reached, when some species develops tools & technology, then that technology, in turn, evolves, via a "technological Moore's Law", of exponential growth, towards a "technological singularity", geologically instantly, i.e. time-scales of hundreds of years, i.e. machine technology evolves millions of times faster than animal biology.

    If so, then alien life is plausibly "nothing or ALL", i.e. primitive microbes (pre-singularity), or advanced Super-Civilizations (post-singularity), with the former being the "rule", and the latter the "exception". For, advanced Super-Aliens would plausibly endure for millions or billions of years, i.e. geologically long period of time. So, actually catching some alien world "in the act", of evolving towards its "bio-techno-singularity", which occurs geologically quickly, would plausibly be even less likely, than observing God-like Super-Aliens, much less alien microbes.
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    The above looks like an excerpt from a term paper. Simply stated, the probability of microbal life elsewhere is very high while the probability of intelligent life is substantially less, but still possible.
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    I'll add my 2c here, as well:

    Is there other life out in the Cosmos? I believe 100% yes.

    I believe that there's everything from the smallest of microbes, all the way up to civilizations that are thousands or even millions of years more advanced than ourselves. Would be extremely ignorant to think otherwise.

    And I believe the first place to look for life is right in our backyard...Mars! I truly believe that Mars may have had a civilization...maybe even similar to our own??? If we can thrive here, and now, why not Mars, millions of years ago? After all, it had water, an atmosphere......So...why not? Mars was not so different from our planet, at one time.

    Have we been visited by other civilizations? (ET's, Aliens, etc)...I don't know? Can't really give a definite answer....BUT, my brain tells me "YES". Again, can't prove it...and I'm not 100% sure....BUT, I always keep an open mind. You just never know...Especially when you look at archaeological sites like PumaPunku, and others sites like it, it's really hard to think that we (humans) actually created that stuff WITHOUT the aid of modern-day construction equipment! I just don't buy it....So, yeah, I'm one of the Ancient Alien or Ancient Astronaut believers, AND I believe in UFO's, and I even believe that we are visited from time to time.... As I've witnessed 2 sightings, myself.

    Now, are all UFO sightings real? I seriously doubt it...We'd be lucky if 2% of these videos & stories are actually legit, pretty sure the rest are all hoaxed.

    Will today's means of communication, SETI, satellites and/or probes, etc etc, ever find life out there? I have to agree with other replies here, and say "probably not right away". Probably not for a VERY, VERY long time.

    Although, as I'm typing this, I just had an interesting, yet, funny thought......I'm sitting here listening to "Message in a Bottle" by the Police.......When it dawned on me....What if all civilizations are all sending out space probes, in all directions, in hopes of finding other life out there.....in hopes that someone finds their "message in the bottle".....

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    Bottom line: There's trillions upon trillions of stars out there....Which means, GAZILLIONS of possibilities for other life.

    eh, just my thoughts!
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    I would have to agree. I think life would be common, however I do not believe of high complexity. Another thing I think about, if there were an intergalactic species, would they even want to stop and say hi?
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    ask your self this...If you had the means, would you want to stop in and say hi???

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    I've said this before, if an alien space faring species knows in advance about humans and our tendencies they will quarantine this sector of space and put up warnings that we should be avoided at all costs.
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    Trying to be a Man of Few words ( MOFW )

    What they all said....

    The Universe is appx 13.7 Billion years old.
    Billions of galaxies - and Billions upon Billions of stars and unknown numbers of planets, too.

    I think the odds are pretty good that the answer to all of your questions is yes.
    No doubt the Universe is unfolding as it should...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modlerbob View Post
    I've said this before, if an alien space faring species knows in advance about humans and our tendencies they will quarantine this sector of space and put up warnings that we should be avoided at all costs.
    An advanced Super-Alien could plausibly, and would possibly, destroy our civilization, to pre-empt a cosmological competitor.

 

 
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