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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?



    How much of it is lack of appreciation, and how much is simply that we just take the sun for granted.

    When I toured the solar observatory at Sacramento Peak in New Mexico, the tour guide mentioned that one of the most common questions/comments they get from tourists is some variation of "what's it like to work all night and sleep all day?" For whatever reason, we have this collective "blind spot" that says, if you have giant telescopes, you must be working at night to observe distant objects. She indicated that they are frequently reminding people that, as a solar observatory, they want to work when the sun is visible, and the sun is not visible at night.

    How many people, if you ask them "what is the closest star to earth" or "what is the brightest star visible from earth" will answer Sirius or some such, because we collectively tend not to think of the sun as a star?
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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    Variety is the spice of life. I like imaging everything.
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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    Check out my flickr page, I am very eclectic in my photography, I spent 4 years as a US Navy photographer, one of the few, and have to say I am a very good photographer, my flickr shows a good cross section of my stuff including B17's, Disney World, seacoasts etc. Of course astronomy is just one of my hobbies, I collect Boston Police guns (back to 1870 and up to today), coin collecting, stamp collecting, scrollsawing, genealogy, HO trains, and of course photography

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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    'cos it's boaring

    No really, just too expensive one scope one use, I would like to get back into it but can' justify the cost

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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    Quote Originally Posted by JR1 View Post
    'cos it's boaring

    No really, just too expensive one scope one use, I would like to get back into it but can' justify the cost
    If you have a refractor of any size you can use a Quark, that is $1100, for scopes under 152mm you only need a UV/IR cut filter on the front of the diagonal. Many if not most of my solar shots have been taken with a Celestron XLT102 AZ a $300 scope, including tripod. and many others with a Orion ST80 that is less than $200 so it isn't with a one use scope. I think you will find many of the imagers here use a Quark, it is actually better in the winter, although I am thinking about a Coronado diagonal for my Lunt 80 to deal with cold temps.

    You can buy a Quark and if youi don't like it you can resell it and get most of your money back. Yes some people are using 230mm refractors, I have not done that as I find that with my Celestron XLT120 or the 102 or even my ST80 I can use it for solar and then that evening for the moon or DSO's
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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    I don't think I ever disrespected solar astronomy, I just think DSOs are much more appealing because of their much larger variety, shape and color, and because it takes us to unimaginably different places. That is not disrespect, is it? I think it's just personal preference.

    BTW post your images in the AP imaging forum any time AFAIC, I always wondered why the solar AP uses its own thread and feel like it is like any other form of AP.

    In regards to your "anyone can do DSO" comment: I don't want to trivialize solar astronomy but dealing with atmospheric circumstances, faintness (long observation times), polar alignment (tracking, guiding) plus dealing with color (filters) are complicating factors not to be ignored, if you want to compare the technicalities. So please don't trivialize that.
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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    I don't think you will find many if any imagers knocking solar ap work. There is a great respect between all imagers here at AF. Cost wise any type of AP once one gets serious takes quite a bit of funds. Solar is a great way to go if one wants more chances to image. I follow and support all types of imaging. I myself have done some solar imaging with Lunt 60 mm setup and find it fascinating as I do for terrestrial, dso, and planetary imaging......All the various types of imaging require unique skillsets, I have enjoyed trying my hand at all. Clear Skies!
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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    CamelHat I have to admit I was being snarky re: DSO's. I keep trying to do DSO imaging and actually find it much harder than solar (maybe because I am good at solar) I am working on my Messier 80 and visual 110.

    Once in a while I post solar in the DSO thread, usually by mistake but will do it more. I guess my biggest complaint about DSO imaging is I get tired at night and don't like the cold, actually why I am happy that this time of year we are having a solar minimum as it is cold outside and snowing right now.

    I think it is a coke/pepsi thing as to me DSO's have a wide variety but they don't change very fast, over the space of decades or millenia. Solar to me have much more variety, no two proms are alike and if you are into sketching you have to move fast because they will change over the course of minutes not eons.

    I do try to get DSO's though

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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    I love it all: solar, lunar, planetary, DSO. It's all beautiful.

    But please don't tell the Moon I said so.

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    Default Re: Why aren't Solar Astronomers and Imagers appreaciated more?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Cartwright SASS View Post
    If you have a refractor of any size you can use a Quark, that is $1100, for scopes under 152mm you only need a UV/IR cut filter on the front of the diagonal. Many if not most of my solar shots have been taken with a Celestron XLT102 AZ a $300 scope, including tripod. and many others with a Orion ST80 that is less than $200 so it isn't with a one use scope. I think you will find many of the imagers here use a Quark, it is actually better in the winter, although I am thinking about a Coronado diagonal for my Lunt 80 to deal with cold temps.

    You can buy a Quark and if youi don't like it you can resell it and get most of your money back. ...
    Sorry but I have not spent that much money in total for all the gear I currently have.

    Number one reason I don't try solar, real life keeps dragging me back in. For some reason, I'm expected to do "grown up stuff" during daylight hours. At night í*¼í¼™ all those pesky humans and most of the house critters go to sleep so I can huddle over my charts and eyepieces in peace and quiet.

    I'm hoping our eventual move from the suburbs to the countryside will greatly improve my viewing opportunities. Of course that will coincide with my wife's retirement and she never runs out of things for me to do. í*½í¸¸
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