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    Default VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please



    Folks;
    Looking to add a refractor to this set-up for AP. Serious thought about the Televue 102is, or perhaps the Tak 106ed. Both expensive, but looking for your thoughts for potential alternatives. By the way, I feel am a graduate from basic AP, & look forward to your response.
    Much Thanks-Jerry

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    If you have the budget for one, the Tak FSQ106ED is a great imaging scope - huge image circle, flat field, colour corrected out to near IR and UV, and the reducer and extender give you a range of focal lengths to choose from.
    It also makes a great rich field scope

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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    jerryThec;
    Much thanks for your quick response. Any thoughts on how the Tak might perform on the new AVX?
    Jerry

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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    Quote Originally Posted by c7185 View Post
    jerryThec;
    Much thanks for your quick response. Any thoughts on how the Tak might perform on the new AVX?
    Jerry
    Quite bloody well actually. The TV and Tak are damn skippy scopes but are quite expensive.

    A new rant I am on... People seem to think that if they spend $10,000 on a high end APO refractor and another $15,000 on a high end AP mount their photos will magically become just like what you see from the professionals. The bad news is they won't. While the equipment to get those photos is important what is more important is to spend the time and effort to maximize the potential and capabilities of what you have and to hone your own skills. It would amaze you at what people can do with a $600 CG5 and a $800 Orion 80mm APO. It all comes down to practice and patience.

    My point here is don't buy the Tak/TV because you see Hubble quality photos. Buy it because your skill level justifies the scope. Then spend a like amount on an AP or Losmandy mount to go with it since you are at the professional level and should get a mount that compliments it.

    Don't get me wrong the AVX is a fine AP mount. But perhaps you might want to look at the Stellarvue 105mm APO or Explore Scientific 102mm APO. Both are banging great scopes and you can do killer work with both. And they are not at the same price point as the two you mentioned.
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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    I also have the C800 Edge HD.
    My suggestion: An 80mm APO. The brand is almost secondary as I know of no self-respecting manufacturer that makes a bad APO.

    Why:

    A) FOV: Your C800 has a pretty narrow FOV, and an 80mm is a great Wide Field complement for it;

    B) Availability: There are probably more 80mm APOs on the 2nd hand market than any other type of scope. Many people buy them as 1st scopes and then get Apperture Fever and sell them (many regretting it later). Lots of good deals to be had;

    C) Portability: Paired to a light-weight mount it's a rockin' Grab n' Go for those times when you just can't be bothered with the whole heavy duty set-up.

    D) Versatility: Easily doubles as a guide scope for your C800.
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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    Thank-You Sir;
    Your comments & thoughts really appreciated. Perhaps forget about Tak & Televue, & simply concentrate on a lessor, but more realistic approch.
    Thanks For Taking The Time to Respond-Jerry

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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    Jerry

    My apologies I came off quite the jerk there. I think the mount is a good one with the potential to be great and to be honest I think that you would be wasting your money on a tak or tv unless you had amazing vision like an audiophile has ears or had seeing conditions with corresponding dark skies where those ota's would sing. They are amazing scopes and worth every penny but for most are either bragging rights or wasted because we don't have the eyes and/or skies to do them justice. Think of owning a Ferrari and then having to drive it in New York City rush hour traffic.

    Stellarvue and Explore Scientific make great mass produced scopes with good quality and Vic over at SV tests each scope personally as I understand it. That is why I recommend them both. Good to great quality at good to great value in terms of price. The 102 to 110 range will be a good compliment to your 8" without competing with it.

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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    PS get a SV 60 or 80 mm finder scope and use it for a guider not a 5+ lbs 80 mm APO. It's a waste of a good APO and of weight.
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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    Take a look at Stellarvue they make an very high quality product.......

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    Default Re: VXMount8EdgeHD Suggest Refractor Please

    Quote Originally Posted by c7185 View Post
    Thank-You Sir;
    Your comments & thoughts really appreciated. Perhaps forget about Tak & Televue, & simply concentrate on a lessor, but more realistic approch.
    Thanks For Taking The Time to Respond-Jerry
    A few months ago, I got hold of a used Explore Scientific ED80 APO for $450 complete with diagonal, finder and case. Granted, deals like that are exceptionnal, but they exist. That scope has such amazing performance, it's become my favorite.
    I regularly spot 2nd hand 80mm APOs in the $600 range and they often come with all kinds of extras like solar filters, EPs and such.

    Another poster took issue with my suggestion of using such a scope as a guide. Maybe it is a bit of overkill, but I already have an Orion ST80 as guide on my C800, and if the mount is beefy enough I can't see why it would be a problem. (Although I wouldn't think of replacing the ST80 with the ED80 as guide). I'd want to treat myself and use it while the C800 is busy imaging!
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