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    Default Second hand scope - is it any good and worth the price?



    Hello!

    I just have a quick question. I'm trying to find a telescope, and I found someone that's selling a second hand telescope. Problem is, when googling on the name and such, I don't really get anything.. So I was hoping maybe some of you know if it's any good.

    He's written this next to it:
    Vixen Super Polaris R-150-S

    And here's 2 pictures of it:




    I noticed there's no subforum with the brand Vixen, so I'd search myself, but I honestly wouldn't know where to start

    He's asking 200 euros for it, which is 285 dollars. I will get some filters and oculars with it, though he doesn't specify which ones (except for 2 filters being moon, and deepsky)

    Keep in mind that new telescopes here in The Netherlands, and afaik in whole Europe, are a lot more expensive than the ones in the US. For example, the Orion SkyQuest XT8 (my first choice) is 350 dollars on their site in the US, yet around 750 euro!! on the sites I can find that ship in Europe

    I hope you guys can help me out on this one!

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    I'm not entirely sure. I can't find much on it except that its discontinued.
    I found out this info about it:
    Focal Ratio: ---> f/5
    Objective Diameter: ---> 150mm
    Tube Length: ---> 715mm
    Weight: ---> 10.6 lbs.

    I believe the model you have may be an even older one from the early 1990s.

    I'm not entirely sure, and I hope someone will chime in on this one soon, but the price may be a bit inflated.
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    Thanks for trying to help out Cladinator!

    Would you say that the fact that's it's an old one means that it isn't as good as the current ones on the market? I'm very new to this, and I don't know how this works regarding telescopes. I remember reading somewhere that it being older surely doesn't have to mean it's worse than a new one - but I have no idea if that's true.

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    Without more information re' what eyepieces are included, its a bit of a shot in the dark. But, as you say, scopes in the Netherlands demand premium prices, in your shoes I'd go for it. By all means, do get a "trial run" if possible. That way, you know its all in working order, and what you're getting.

    As to age, no, there is no real relevance IMO. This scope should give you a lot of wonderful nights out under the heavens.

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    Thanks BobDob!

    Problem is I'm very new at this, and I've never even seen a telescope in real life. (apart from toy things) So that's it for the trial run, I'm afraid. Also, I'm in contact with him through email, so I can ask what eyepieces are included! Thing is though, I don't know anything about them myself!

    If you can tell me what to ask him then I can post it back here and maybe we can find out if the eyepieces are any good?

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    For a first scope, this would do you well, I'm thinking. Were I you, I'd nail the deal now, before you lose it, with the proviso that you get to inspect it first hand before its a "done deal". In other words, go for it but "subject to inspection and approval".

    I don't believe you are making a mistake, whatever ep's are included, given the other parameters you mention, especially scope costs in your region.

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    Alright BobDob, thanks!

    Considering I'm a complete newb at this, what would you recommend inspecting? What are the usual weaknesses of a scope and can they even be seen by just watching it (so not watching trough it) Or do I really have to 'try it out' to be able to know if it's a decent scope?

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    Well, ideally you know someone who has some experience with scopes you can drag along for the inspection. Failing that, and given the probability that you won't get a weather window to actually get to look at the night sky with it, at least get the seller to set it up and get some terrestial views. I'd also ask him to coach you how to set the mount up for celestial viewing. This would include polar alignment, spotting scope alignment, and use of the slow motion cables and clutches.

    I saw the bucket of eyepieces you put up on the other thread. There has to be at least a couple of good ones in there. Heck, I don't see how you can wrong as long as everything is in good operating condition. For a first scope, it will serve you well, probably for a good long time. If and when your interest demands "newer, bigger, gooder", you can likely pass this one on to some one else and move up to what you are ready for.

    Keep in mind, this is a professionally produced product. It may not be top of the line, but it will be good enough for you for a first scope...provided, all is working well. Your seller's demonstration of this should put your mind at rest.

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    I wish I could give you more than just 1 thanks! Awesome post!

    I'll send him an email and just plain ask him if everything still works correctly
    Considering he replied to my first mail within 2 minutes saying 200 euro would be fine, and when I wanted to come pick it up, leads me to believe he's happy that he can finally get rid of it (and I'm going to assume it's because it wastes space (hopefully that's the reason)) and try to get 50 euro's off of the price. I'd say for 150 euros I shouldn't even be doubting about it.

    Thanks a lot for your post! You might just have made 2 people happy :P

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    As for thanks, not really necessary, Gibez. All of us in this hobby have been helped by others along the way. This will likely happen with you if you stay with it for awhile (and, we hope you do). So, its really about payback. This is one of the most rewarding bennies of amateur astronomy, helping others along as we have been helped.

    As for negotiating the price, can't hurt. But, be careful not to over negotiate. You want a friend, if possible with the seller, someone who will be a supporter after the sale if you have questions, problems, etc. Paying full asking price might be cheaper, given this consideration.

    For example, collimation is an issue you will encounter with an f/5 reflector. What he has done, what he's used, what help/assistance he can give you can be invaluable.

    I've got to be offline for a few hours. I hope I will hear you have a scope, or at least a tenative deal, when I come back on.

    Good luck!

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