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    Hi All, this is my first post and I am excited to join in the forum!

    I have a chance to get a DSE 12.5, I think it's the deluxe even though it doesn't say it on the base since it does have azimuth handles. It comes with several eyepieces:
    1) Meade Super Wide Angle 32mm multi coated eyepiece 2) Plossl 26 mm "Sirius" fully coated eyepiece 3) University Or. 9mm multi coated eyepiece 4) Brandon 32mm EFL Vernon eyepiece 5) 2.4 x Dakin Barlow Vernonscope 6) Lumicon deep sky filter

    plus an astrosystems cheshire/sightube autocollimator, dust cover, end cap, and about 10 or 12 books.

    It has a 2" helical focuser and there is something on the back of the tube that I am not sure what it is and the seller doesn't either (he's selling it from a family estate). I have attached some pics to see if anyone can identify what it is on the mirror end of the tube.

    The price we have negotiated is $675. Does this sound reasonable? It's in excellent condition and apparently has hardly ever been used.

    Are there other questions to ask the seller? I am going to see it in person on Monday, any tips on what to look for to see if it's worthwhile? I have never bought a scope before, having only had a cheapo refractor inherited from my father. My wife is getting this for me from Christmas, man I am lucky!! :-)

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    Welcome to the forum, Lanky.

    Sounds like a good deal to me, especially with the books. Not a real steal, but fair. Orion doesn't seem to have a 12" classic dob any more, but the 10" is $525 plus $40 for shipping The focuser doesn't look like a helical to me, perhaps an early Crayford, or a rack and pinion. I think the arrangement on the back end of the tube might be an adjustable weight balancing system.

    I wonder how you got permission to post pics before your software-imposed probation was up. Not judgemental, I'm glad you could, just curious. Our gatekeeper doesn't seem consistent.
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    You have probably seen the review here: Telescope Reviews, Page 8

    Looks like the previous owner was a bit of a DIY guy, and pimped it up a bit, including replacing the stock focuser.

    Have fun, and clear skies to you.
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    Thanks for the fast replies!

    I guess I am showing my newness to telescopes, not knowing what type of focuser it is!

    I am sure the adjustable weight will be very handy, thanks for the insight! I did see that review before, thanks for posting the link. There isn't a lot of info about these scopes on the web, but everything that I have read so far shines a positive light on them. I am really stoked!!

    My poor wife, she was agonizing over what scope to get me, she has no clue about them but didn't want to spoil the surprise. But she finally told me what she wanted to get me so I could help find a good one. Found this one right away on craigslist and can pick it up locally-ish. We're picking it up on Monday, I can't wait to get it back here and get a clear night.

    Is it worth spending the $$ to get a goto/computer-controlled encoder system for it? I have seen them for around $350ish(for encoders, gears, hardware, etc but no computer/controller). Would I be able to take pics with a CCD or would I need more than this?

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    Is it worth spending the $$ to get a goto/computer-controlled encoder system for it? I have seen them for around $350ish(for encoders, gears, hardware, etc but no computer/controller). Would I be able to take pics with a CCD or would I need more than this?
    There are much, much cheaper ways to find targets, even in light polluted skies. Answer that question yourself after you have some experience. You can take moon pictures and bright planets. You need an EQ mount for dim targets.

    Have you downloaded Stellarium yet? It's free. It's all I use.
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    As Pierre said a fair deal but not a great deal.

    I don't place much money on simple accessories like 2 standard eyepieces (most of them come with two) the thingy on the back appears to be weights to adjust the balance of the scope.

    Work the focuser knobs and make sure it feels "smooth", and look down the tube at the main mirror and make sure no cracks or edge chips, and that the glass is reasonably clean.

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    Hi,
    Welcome to the astronomy forum and to astronomy. A 12 inch telescope is not the usual beginner's telescope. It is big.

    You mention adding a motorized tracking or goto system. Best to forget about this. Retrofitting a computerized or motorized system will be expensive if it is even possible ... probably cheaper buy one like that from the start. Even with tracking and guidance, a Dobson telescope is not suited for photography. For photography, you need an entirely different kind of telescope and mount. Look at it this way, using a DOB for photography is akin to using a Corvette as an off road vehicle. Yea, you can do it in a fashion but not really.

    Also a 12 inch Dobson telescope is big. You need to think about where you will store it, where you will use it, what obstacles exist between the two places, and how you will move it between the two. Also our partners in life sometime have fits about monsters in the den, etc.

    After you get this monster scope, you will need to learn how to find objects in the sky so you can see stuff with it. Get either "NightWatch" or "Turn Left at Orion." Either of these books will tell you how to find objects in the sky with your telescope. Another book " The back yard astronomer" is excellent for learning the ends and outs of astronomy. A free computer program Stellarium will tell you what is visible and also where in the sky a object is located. You local public library may have a wealth of material ... monthly magazines, books, etc.

    Another road to travel is to start a little smaller ... the Orion XT8i is an excellent place. It has a computer to help you find stuff, is easy to move about and store, and has sufficient aperture to see many objects. Will it compete with the 12 inch, no not in viewing ... it will be close but will much easier to take out at night and use. It cost about the same as you are paying for the 12 inch scope.
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    I got the scope yesterday! I checked the mirror and it's in excellent shape, very clean with no defects, there is an end cap which was always kept on it so there is barely any dust. The focuser was smooth and I found out that it's a JMI NGF focuser which is a modified 2" Crayford and apparently are pretty nice. And you guys were right, the thing at the top towards the mirror is a homemade counterweight.

    Thanks for the replies, I really appreciate it! I am in a rural area on top of a mountain in West Virginia, I have plenty of room for storage and usage and can just wheel it out of my basement so portability wasn't an issue.

    Can't wait to get a clear night to try it out! We've had snow every day for the past 18 days, getting a little old! But we are supposed to have some clear-ish skies for the next 3 nights so I am hoping for at least some viewing even if it's spotty.

    Happy New Year!!

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    Congratulations on your new telescope. Now for clear skies.
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    awesome scope there.
    congratulations.here's hoping the weather is good to
    you.
    align yhe finder up before you use it though,otherwise
    there's every chance the scope and finder will be looking in
    totally different directions.also check the collimation is ok.
    after taking the scope down,moving it and setting it back up,
    there's every chance it will be out.especially with a big dob.
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