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    Default Mood swings



    Normally I follow astronomy every day - I browse this forum and see the different classifieds and usually read something about amateur astronomy/ap and open up Stellarium to think about a possible session, etc. However, recently I've had several clear days and I could've gone out but I haven't, in part due to being tired but today I am wide awake at 3am, don't have to wake up early tomorrow, and still am spending time writing this post instead of being out.

    What I've observed is that I go through moods, when some periods I want to take my scope out every day, even at the cost of deadlines and such, and other times I couldn't be bothered. I feel guilty when I do that but I keep reminding myself this is a hobby. Beyond guilty, I feel it's a shame to miss out on clear nights.

    I used to think it was due to having the same scope but now I have more than I know what to do with and new ones, and yet I'm still like this. I wonder if it's the cold. I wonder if it's me (I do tend to approach things in life in spurts, though I don't like to leave things unfinished). Is there anyone else that does this?

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    Default Re: Mood swings

    Know the feeling well Ram.
    Once I am out there all is good.
    I put the feeling down to my age.
    Clear skies
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    Default Re: Mood swings

    Yep, there's been a few times I've had to push myself out the door especially as tiredness invariably bites. But once I'm there setting up I find my mood is completely different and keen to get on with observing. Of course, other times I'm just really not in the mood or way too tired and I know I'm not going to enjoy lugging myself out. It is a hobby - if you have plenty of clear nights then you have the luxury of being able to pick and choose a bit more. Here, in the UK - there is no such luxury - especially if there's no Moon at the same time!

    Just to get out - It's definitely useful having a quick grab and go setup just to carry out and be setup within minutes. Then it's no big thing if you figure that night's not for observing for whatever reason but then if it's good you've got the option of getting the big guns out.
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    Default Re: Mood swings

    I think everyone goes through "moods" from time-to-time. I certainly do, regardless of the hobby and/or work.

    As Dave mentions, a grab-n-go rig can make "decisions" somewhat easier at times... no hassles. I keep this rig set up in the back yard all the time... hardly a grab-n-go, but the idea is the same.

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    Default Re: Mood swings

    I hate missing a clear night, I just hate it. I get ansy, I feel guilty. If it is clear, no Moon and good transparency, I would need to be chained down to miss it.

    Sometimes, though, I am too tired or I don't feel so good. And sometimes I put a scope out to be acclimated and when it comes time for observing, I'll put it away and not look at anything, especially if the sky is sub-optimal. And sometimes, just sitting out my zero-gravity chair with a 10x50 and just panning around satisfies me, or plunking down the ST80 on the Twilight 1 is best.

    I have yet to hit upon a long gap where I do not observe due to lack of interest. That time will come eventually I am certain, but I have not seen that yet.

    Sometimes I feel guilty being outside observing and knowing the spammers are piling up on the forum and I have cut observing short to swing the banhammer.

    And sometimes, if I am not too keen on observing, once I actually get started, with no pressure upon myself, I can relax and just enjoy being out there, the quiet movement of the scope, occasional eye piece swap, and the simple pleasure of hopping from star to star to acquire a target. There I find my joy.
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    Default Re: Mood swings

    Ram- I think it is natural to go through these periods of interest - and lack of interest - in this or any other hobby. Don't sweat it or worry about it. After all, it is a hobby, not a life and death imperative. If you need to step away for a while, then do so. If you are forcing yourself to do something, that may not help with your long-term participation in the hobby.

    Choose hobbies and pastimes that fulfill you, and if you are not fulfilled, don't be concerned about stepping away for a while. The stars will be there waiting when you are ready to engage with them at any level. When the time is right for you, have a go at a session. When the time is not right, don't.

    Just my two cents.

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    Default Re: Mood swings

    Good morning, Ram.
    The feelings and sentiments you expressed are completely normal. You are a healthy, normal human being with a mind that is not single. My advice is relax.
    Do not accuse yourself.
    And for what it's worth I personally have enjoyed your journey as I have read your posts and the interactions that you have taken part in on this forum. Though you may take a break or intensify your activities from time to time your presence has been good for me and I have appreciated it.
    So again, I say relax.
    Let the ocean tides of your interest ebb and flow as they do in all of us. And enjoy even that, my friend.
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    Default Re: Mood swings

    Hi Ram,

    Last night I was out on one of the clearest nights in weeks. The moon was behind clouds, M31 was as visible as I've seen it yet from Fort Collins skies.

    And I yawned once, started nearly falling asleep at the eyepiece, and thought maybe I should have drank too much coffee or something and tried harder to take advantage of the clarity.

    Just couldn't do it. I was afraid I'd fall asleep and knock my telescope over. Unlikely I know.

    But there was this nagging thought that I wasn't dedicated enough, or there was something wrong with me, or I was just missing out and felt I should try harder to stay awake.

    But I stopped beating myself up, and decided to get the sleep I obviously needed.

    And I still this morning think I'm a bit lame for having fallen asleep on the clearest night I've seen in weeks.

    I have gone through same thing you speak of with my music composition and performance. I have played music since I was 7 on multiple instruments and composed music since I was 11 years old. I hardly perform anymore. I love doing it, but it's a lot of work and I wish I had it in me to pursue it more thoroughly and thoughtfully, but it's not always possible. People love it when I do it. But sometimes that isn't enough. I have to remember sometimes, I do this for me, not for the audience. And my purpose these days is different and performing does still live on my list of things to do, it's just not at the top like it used to be. For me, astronomy is taking over my life right now...

    Astronomy for me has always been something of a dream to pursue. But I realized after getting my scope that I was already doing it for years. I already know where a lot of stuff is and what the names of stars are and this is what I'd wish I'd known all along. That I didn't have to wait til I had a telescope to think of myself as an astronomer. I was that with just my eyes.

    But the guitar or writers block really has bugged me terribly. I don't let it anymore. I do what I want and don't try to push myself into things too much anymore. I look at what I'm terribly interested in and satisfy that curiosity rather than beating myself up for having seemingly lost interest in something I know deep down I love dearly.

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    Default Re: Mood swings

    This is a very good thread. Again, the collective wisdom of the forum shines through.
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    Default Re: Mood swings

    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    And sometimes, if I am not too keen on observing, once I actually get started, with no pressure upon myself, I can relax and just enjoy being out there, the quiet movement of the scope, occasional eye piece swap, and the simple pleasure of hopping from star to star to acquire a target. There I find my joy.
    And that is why I often make two lists. One is the deep dive motivated photon search were anything less than the identification of globular clusters orbiting M87 us considered a failure.

    And there is "Oh look M42 is up, let me stare at that for an hour" lol
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