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    Default Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?



    I'm new to this forum, having just received an iOptron AZ Mount Pro for use with a Mewlon 210 OTA that should arrive later this week. In reading the mount manual I see that section 5.5.2 is titled "Enter Other Objects or Observation List." It states that one can create a list of objects by entering their RA & Dec, but then says, "A more useful application of this function is to store your favorite viewing objects before heading to to the field."

    This seems a good way to arrange, ahead of time, a list of galaxies, GCs, etc one would want to observe that night. The manual further states that once such a list is compiled, "Now you can slew to your favorite stars from “Custom Objects” catalog using “Select and Slew.”

    My question is this: Can one create such a list at say, 2 o'clock in the afternoon, without using the mount's GOTO operation to align the scope? I only want to hook up the Go2Nova 8407 hand controller to the mount, create my list, and then turn off the mount. At my observing site at 9 o'clock in the evening, I would then level the mount, align the scope, and go to my Custom Objects list. From the list I would select objects I chose earlier and start observing each in turn.

    How practical is it to do this? From reading the manual, I am still unsure if I can convince the mount that I only want to create an observing list. I don't want to level the mount and align the scope - in fact, I'd like to do it without attaching either scope or counterweights - rather, just create an observing list. Can this be done? What is the correct sequence of steps?

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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    You can use Calsky to generate a observing list for your location based on any time and duration you pick.
    All required information will be included but I think it would be easier to just enter the coordinates at the mount instead of during the day.
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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    Gabby,
    The AZ Mount Pro has its own list of 200,000+ objects, divided into Messier, Caldwell, etc objects. Can I not just select what I want to view from the mount's own list?

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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    Yes most definitely, I like to use Calsky as it lets you know when a object is best placed for viewing so you can coordinate a productive list instead of finding out it is behind a tree, hill, not quite up yet.
    Of all the time I have used goto mounts I have personally never programmed a object other than a couple of comets I wanted to see as most objects are already listed.
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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    Gabby,
    Thanks for the tip re Calsky - I was not aware of that website.

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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    With my AVX, the Nexstar+ handset will allow me to do a "quick align" which cuts out the need to slew to various stars for a GOTO alignment. That renders the hand controller fully ready for whatever I wish to do (i.e. input a custom objects list).

    Does iOptron have a similar feature? Or a "use last alignment" feature?

    Otherwise, nothing wrong with faking an align. Just run through the routine and accept the positions of where the scope is pointing.

    Gabrielle's Calsky suggestion is great. I usually work off a written/printed list or one I have built in the SkySafari app. I have not been able to work off a list of objects in several months due to poor sky. A broken record lament from me.
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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    bladekeeper,
    Yes, my iOptron AZ Mount Pro has a similar feature. Yesterday I charged the mount, hooked up the hand controller, and created a personalized list from its "Edit User Objects" function. When I first turned it on, the mount insisted on slewing to a bright "star" (Mars in the west). I then asked it to slew to nearby Pollux. It seemed to do so although I could not be certain how close it came since this was on a table in our kitchen nook and no telescope was attached.

    At any rate, I was able to create an observing list, in this case DSOs, from the mount's catalog of Messier objects, NGC objects, etc. The only downside is that it takes time to key in NGC numbers and save each object on the list. But it can be done. At an observing site, I can, in theory, "Select and Slew" to each object on the list I've created for that night. If the mount is leveled and aligned, I should be able to spend most of my time observing not searching for something.
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    Default Re: Creating observation list with the iOptron AZ Mount Pro?

    Quote Originally Posted by Harvey3344 View Post
    bladekeeper,
    Yes, my iOptron AZ Mount Pro has a similar feature. Yesterday I charged the mount, hooked up the hand controller, and created a personalized list from its "Edit User Objects" function. When I first turned it on, the mount insisted on slewing to a bright "star" (Mars in the west). I then asked it to slew to nearby Pollux. It seemed to do so although I could not be certain how close it came since this was on a table in our kitchen nook and no telescope was attached.

    At any rate, I was able to create an observing list, in this case DSOs, from the mount's catalog of Messier objects, NGC objects, etc. The only downside is that it takes time to key in NGC numbers and save each object on the list. But it can be done. At an observing site, I can, in theory, "Select and Slew" to each object on the list I've created for that night. If the mount is leveled and aligned, I should be able to spend most of my time observing not searching for something.
    Harvey,
    You can bypass the start up auto function by pressing the back button just after turn on and when the first messages come to light on the screen. You should then be able to do your thing and not have to work around this auto function.
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