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    Default Does the USA have "Star Wars" type laser beams in space in case of a nuclear strike?



    I heard about this in the eighties. Did it ever happen?

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    This was one of Ronald Reagan's big issues. AS FAR AS WE KNOW, it didn't happen; the technology was too complicated.
    Now, I'm definitely not a conspiracy nut, but the Pentagon has some pretty nifty stuff at their disposal that, for some reason, they don't tell the public about. So, did it actually happen? Do we have the technology floationg around up there?
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    Yeah, as far as we know, it never happened. But it sure made Russia put a great deal of money into their military-so much so that the governament fell into financial trouble (supposedly).
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    I'm thinking about how long the U.S. kept the stealth fighter under wraps, and the blackbird, too. Up to 15 years of total secrecy with technology unimaginable to the public back when it was first developed. Looking back, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if we already had it and the world didn't know.

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    This post should answer any questions as to why there is no real manned space program and only shoestring attempts at planetary exploration. A cold war can generate competition, but it will ultimately bankrupt both sides.

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    No-- that we know about. However the USA and other countries do have anti-satellite missles that can take out a satellite. These have been used publicly.
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    An anti-satellite laser could only take down a limited number of targets. In the case of a strategic attack, the system would be overwhelmed by using a number of MIRV's. The system never did work, and the limited successes through testing were rigged.
    It was all about keeping the military industrial complex rolling in the $$$.

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    An anti-satellite laser could only take down a limited number of targets. In the case of a strategic attack, the system would be overwhelmed by using a number of MIRV's. The system never did work, and the limited successes through testing were rigged.
    It was all about keeping the military industrial complex rolling in the $$$.
    Yep, there were even a cheaper countermeasure recently developed..

    gold etch over a spinning missile that reflects 99% of an energy weapon... costs a few hundred bucks extra per unit, that with inflatable dummy re-entry vehicles deployed that makes it impossible to develop a system that could even remotely be effective.

    But of course bucks will still be funneled to programs that can be countered for pennies on the dollar. You would be surprised at how cheap measures used correctly can defeat even the most advanced systems... like cell phone networks being able to precisely track the most advanced RAM stealth aircraft.

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    The navy is moving toward lasers for their close-in defense weapons systems for their ships in addition to a newly deployed missile that can knock down ballistic missiles. We also have a working airborne laser that has a supposed range of 200 miles. Laser systems that you are talking about do not target the mirvs as they are hardened for atmosphere re-entry and would not be affected by a laser. These laser target the missle during boost phase so "all" that needs to happen is to knock off a chunk of the missile. Granted, there is no way a Star Wars System could overcome a Russian or Chinese nuclear assault but it could stop one form North Korea.
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    I saw a TV program about this stuff a while back, it was terrifying to see just how crazy the US + USSR governments became during this period, and how far things were escalating. It went something like this:

    1. We start with the humble ICBM.
    2. We make a countermeasure - starwars, or anti-missile missiles.
    3. Improve the ICBM, by putting an ICBM launcher in space so there's minimal warning.
    4. Develop countermeasures.
    5. Improve space-based ICBM launcher, so it launches one ICBM and many decoys.
    6. Develop tech to counter it.
    7. Improve space-based ICBM. Have it launch 20 ICBMs plus hundreds of decoys.

    I think it was around there that they stopped, but there were serious plans for a space-based launcher that can fire many nukes at once and guarantee most get through. At this point, I'd like to recommend reading Greg Bear's "Eon". It was written during the cold war, and set in the 90s, and featured a lot of orbital space-weaponry that does get used. We could have ended up like that all too easily.

    Now that's thankfully died down. Instead we're building robots to go and kill people remotely, so we can go kill lots of people without the embarrassing military funerals at home.

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