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Thread: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

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    Default If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?



    And why that particular filter. I own a 120mm f8 refractor. I will own a 152mm f5 refractor before the end of summer. Thanks to you all.

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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    A narrowband UHC would get the nod from me.

    Been meaning to pick up the DGM NPB for a good while now: Dgm Optics - Npb Nebula Filter
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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    Imaging or visual? , mono or osc? Sensor size? Eyepiece? Sky conditions?
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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    I am guessing for visual. That would be UHC/narrowband. It passes both OIII and H-beta wavelengths, so most of nebulae will respond to it.

    Lumicon or Astronomik will be my 1st choice and Orion Ultrablock 2d. DGM cuts about half of H-beta intensity, so it behaves more like wide OIII filter.
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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    I have several for visual.

    Lumicon UHC
    Baader OIII
    Baader UHC
    DGM NPB
    Orion Ultrablock - returned it but used it for a week.
    Thousand Oaks OIII
    Orion H Beta

    We often have filter shootouts with the clubs 16" Newt and for the most part have found the Lumicon to perform the best overall on the most objects. There are subtle differences but my go to is the Lumicon. Last fall/winter we did get a chance to see the Horsehead with the H Beta, that was a real treat because I've had that filter for about 5 or 6 years and never got good enough conditions for it to be effective.

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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    Quote Originally Posted by refractordude View Post
    UHC is misused and abused term. Most of budget filters labeled as UHC are actually broadband light pollution filters. You may see mild improvement on nebulae but it will be much weaker than with well made narrowband filter.

    What I would suggest instead is to look for a used Lumicon/Astronomik or Orion/DGM filter on CN, Astromart or eBay. Typically you can pick 1.25" in good shape for ~$50.
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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    1) DGM Optics NPB Nebula filter. If you want to save some money, buy a Cosmetic Second.
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    2) Lumicon O-III filter. If you want to save some dollars get the 2" Econoline version or the 1.25" that is on closeout.
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    Default Re: If You Had A Choice Of Only One Nebula Filter, Which Would It Be?

    Hello Refractordude,

    it all dependes on the light pollution levels in your skies.

    Under a medium LP, the UHC filter is a very good allrounder, as with Bryan.
    Under a higher LP, you will eventually mostly use an OIII filter, which is anyway the best choice on the star birth nebulae, young SNR, Wolf-Rayet nebulae, and on most of the planetary nebulae.

    I have the OIII filters from Astrodon (CCD 5nm), Astronomik, Baader (visual 10nm), and Lumicon.
    Together with the other filters, they fill pretty well a socks drawer.

    Can't talk about the Svbony filters, as Svbony is not an OEM filters manufacturer.

    Regarding "what filter for what nebula", the best guide is the IDSA Atlas, indicating for more than 500 nebulae the filter type,
    for each its own. It goes far beyond the objects listed by David Knisely in prairieastronomy.
    And if not enough, there are also some well documented observer's lists.

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