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    Default Messier Catalog



    So we got our first telescopes just over 2 years ago for xmas 2015. I bought 2 small refractors an 80mm eq powerseeker and a 60mm powerseeker for the kids and I to enjoy and learn a new hobby. I fell in love with astronomy and have added 3 more telescopes to my astronomy locker as well as an assortment of accessories. I have been very fortunate with pricing and finding deals. I have yet to get a clear evening for 2018 aside for the sub zero temperatures making it unfit for man or beast to be outside. I have however set a goal to see as many messier if not all objects as I can. I very recently bought and C8 SCT to compliment the C6N I already had so I should be able to get some excellent views with this added OTA. I am confident I can organize which to use with what objects as even with the .63 focal reducer the C6N still has a wider FOV.

    The problem is I moved for work 18 months ago and I now live in a very light polluted area 6.7 on the Bortle scale. Even what I consider my dark site is still 5.5 . I do not get to travel far very often due to the lengthy hours I work. However we do go to visit family a couple times a year. I was able to scout out a soccer field 10min from their place that is 3.0 on the bortle scale.

    Which objects should I save for my dark site at 3.0. I am sure there will be some that will be challenging if even possible form my location.

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    Default Re: Messier Catalog

    I found a web site that lists the Messier object in order of their magnitude if that will help.

    Messier Objects by Apparent Visual Magnitude

    Used in tandem with a App like Stellarium might increase your odds of success.
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    Default Re: Messier Catalog

    Thanks Hillrat that's outstanding I can print it of and highlight as I go. If unable to view I know to move to a darker site to try again.

    How's the weather in Sask, any clear nights or has it been too cold, I know shameful to admit that it gets to cold sometimes even for us Cdns. I used to live just outside Lyyodminister on the AB side.
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    Default Re: Messier Catalog

    Visual magnitude is a good measure to consider, but not the only one. Surface brightness, especially with the galaxies, is another key factor to keep in mind.

    This article by my friend Alan is an excellent treatise on the topic and a great read: Why Can't I See That Galaxy? - Astronomy Forums | Telescope Forums & Reviews | Astronomy Community

    There are a few bugaboos on the Messier list, such as M33, M101, and M74. Perhaps M97. By and large, though, most of these objects are the some of the best and brightest out there.

    Though all of them will ultimately show better at a dark site, I do encourage you to try them from home as well. You may be surprised at what you can get. Just be willing to temper expectations, of course.

    A couple of our friends here have been successful with their Messier pursuits from light polluted environments. Let my buddy John and my friend Bill be your paradigms of hope:

    Messier 110 Certificate Report by Lowjiber 8/13/2016...

    Messier Visual Program Targets 71 through 110 - the Third Leg

    John did most of his from sunny Las Vegas, while Bill did his with an 80mm scope.

    Best of luck with your quest, Jimi, and don't forget about the forum's Messier Visual Award program: Astronomy Certificate Visual Awards Program Apply Now!!!
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    Default Re: Messier Catalog

    Thanks Bladekeeper I was unaware of the Messier Visual Award program I think that's awesome, I will have to keep track and get writing. Here is a couple pics I snapped last summer not spectacular but ok for light polluted skies and my first attempt. I have a few of other Messier objects I've observed. I love taking photos of what I see it allows me and the kids to lock back at all the things we saw. Kinda like scape booking or keeping an astronomy photo album.


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    Yup what Bryan referred to is great advice. I also found a site that shows what each Messeir Object COULD looks like with everything just right. A Messier Image Gallery

    I see you have quite a stable of scopes, impressive. The weather here is making me wonder if I'm tough or stupid for living here, and a Eastern Canada dose of high humidity for good bone chilling measure. But is has been clear.....

    Left home for Calgary @ 0830Hrs this morning -42C with the windchill Melting in Cowtown, and -15C at 2030Hrs when I got back.
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    Left home for Calgary @ 0830Hrs this morning -42C with the windchill Melting in Cowtown, and -15C at 2030Hrs when I got back.
    Looks like we took a bit of the cold for ya, it was -7 and snowing this afternoon and now it's a frigid -25.

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    You should try to get the M110 from home. I was able to do it but it took 18 months to nab M74 through the Z10, that was my last object.
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    I did not read the article mentioned by the other respondents, but I do know elevation of the object sometimes makes the difference. Higher is better, you can find out when the object will be on the meridian and look for it then.

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    Thanks Helicon from home I have only been able to images it thus far, I is rare to have favorable conditions where I live. I have not yet tried it in my C8 which I plan to try and set up this evening.
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