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Thread: In the middle of the night

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    Default In the middle of the night



    The September UK weather overall has been very pleasant. We've had a good number of blue sky days which held promise of a decent evening's viewing. In my location however its always been a false promise. The clouds always seem to gather at dusk or even if not I'm left with a sky where even mag. 2 stars are feeble. Therefore my number of viewing sessions in September = 1.

    Now here's the rub. On three occasions in the last fortnight I've awoken between 3 and 4am (call of nature) only to witness a striking Orion constellation gleaming through my bedroom window. There it sat, grinning at me in all its glory.

    Now only three times maybe just a straw poll, but it got me thinking.......are middle of the night skies a better bet (generally speaking) than late evening?

    Or maybe its just a summer thing since summer evening skies need to cool down after the heat of the day? Since we are past equinox I figure that its certainly dark enough by 8pm but the transparency has been poor.

    Anyway, I'm going back to bed.

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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    It has been rather like that here as well, Alec. Very warm days followed by quite cool nights has rendered the transparency unpalatable, it seems.

    I'm blaming the moisture in the air during the day rising and condensing as the temperature falls with the onset of evening. It does seem that things obtain a manner of equilibrium as the night progresses. Too late on a work night to wait it out.

    This week, however, the day temps are much cooler and a high pressure dome seems to have settled into place. This should (I think) help the transparency some. Indeed, the forecast for the remainder of the week is looking quite favorable. I shall have a go at it this evening.

    That's just my surmising based on what I've read in the past and may or may not be right.
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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    Hello Alec,

    the same is here: hazy night skies.
    Hoping for better conditions in October,

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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    Quote Originally Posted by bladekeeper View Post
    It has been rather like that here as well, Alec. Very warm days followed by quite cool nights has rendered the transparency unpalatable, it seems.

    I'm blaming the moisture in the air during the day rising and condensing as the temperature falls with the onset of evening. It does seem that things obtain a manner of equilibrium as the night progresses. Too late on a work night to wait it out.

    This week, however, the day temps are much cooler and a high pressure dome seems to have settled into place. This should (I think) help the transparency some. Indeed, the forecast for the remainder of the week is looking quite favorable. I shall have a go at it this evening.

    That's just my surmising based on what I've read in the past and may or may not be right.
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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    Since we had a high pressure zone settle in the past few days, I have had two observing sessions in the past 3 days. One night was spoiled by high clouds, but yesterday (last night) was quite good. I've also been looking out the window at around 4:00 am when I wake up and have seen a twinkling Sirius.
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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    I feel your pain Alec

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    Very similar situation here in Western Kansas. Also have wind to contend with Total observing sessions since May - 2
    Same in NE Kansas with the light dome
    Things should start to settle out here soon. (insert praying icon here)
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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    Astronomy club President and Vice President say this time of year is the best time of year to taking the telescopes out but everyday around 3-5PM it normally rains their has only been a couple clear nights out.

    I'm honestly happy now that I have a GoTo mount I can at least set it up and go straight to what I'm looking at.

    Hopefully next year around January through May the astronomy club will have a few star parties I'm really interested and going out and filming the telescopes the Vice President of the club is nice enough to give me a ride to the club meetings and soon to the star parties we live about 5 minutes from each other.

    I'm curious to see what everything will look like in their telescopes because if what I see in theirs looks nothing better then what I'm seeing I think I'll finally get over my obsession with wanting a new telescope.

    I'm sure they have telescopes well over the $500 price tag and if their views are not much better then what I'm seeing with my telescopes I'll honestly be surprised.

    I'd really love to see what a $1,500 telescope sees that my 80EQ or 8'' dob can't see.

    Right now I can see the Pleiades with my 80EQ I honestly dunno how much better you can get for that kinda money but I'm having a hard time believing even if I had $2,500 I wouldn't be impressed.
    I still like I prefer my 80EQ over my 8'' dob the good thing is the Vice President of the club is gonna let me barrow his 40mm Eyepiece so maybe that will give better views then my 20mm GSO and my 25mm eyepiece that came with my Dob.
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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    Yep same in this part of the UK, Crystal clear after about 0200 till 0500
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    Default Re: In the middle of the night

    I've had three full morning sessions this month and the skies were a lot clearer than any of the nights of the past 2 months.
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    I'd really love to see what a $1,500 telescope sees that my 80EQ or 8'' dob can't see.
    Well you really are comparing watermelons to apples here. The whole point of Dob scopes is to mount the largest piece of glass the cheapest way possible
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