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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?



    I am OLD...BUT not old school... ! and I have absolutely positively no interest at all in AP

    While I was forced to learn the sky and the fun of star hopping when I first started in this hobby with my very first telescope in the early 1950's (not a typo) today I only use GoTo scopes...

    I am an observer ...spend a lot of time on one or two targets swapping out eyepieces etc sketching and taking notes in my log book..
    I'm not in this hobby to spend the time hunting .... The only hunting I currently do is for Mourning Dove and I do that sitting down on my stool ......

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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    This has been a very interesting thread. With my busy life and schedule, I might be able to get out once a week (sometime less if the weather does not cooperate), so I need to see as much as I can in the small amount of time that i have. So I use goto mounts. I would rather ne observing than hunting for objects, and when I am on an object, I want the object to not move in the FOV. I like to observe an object for a long time and let my eye start to see subtle detail that I would miss if I was constantly moving the scope. To me it is very relaxing to get a nice nebula in the FOV and study it for awhile. This is just my preference, to each his own.
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    I was strictly a manual star hopper for 25 years before I got my first goto scope. I could find virtually any object visible in my old C8 by star hopping and my star maps. It just took patience and time.

    I know I can do it old school, but now I exclusively use goto and Sky Safari. Why? Because I don't want to waste the time trying to find my targets. I want to spend my time observing, recording my observations, and studying the nature of what I see in the eyepiece. It's all a matter of priorities.
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    I started in the early/mid '70s. Until recently I either star hopped or used setting circles. Remember (or for you young guys, realize) that back in the '70s there were no laptops in every house. Folding sky charts and sometimes the use of math to adjust for local time told you where to look for objects. Last year I purchased my first goto. I have to admit it's kind of cool having the laptop hooked up to the scope to slew to those deep sky objects. However, I also use the mount manually. I have a polar scope in my AVX and after doing a polar alignment I sometimes just release the clutches and manually move the scope to an object I want to view and then use the clock drive just like an old school GEM. I do that when I want a quick set up since I can use the polar scope and get aligned quicker than doing the computer alignment.
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob327 View Post
    I am OLD...BUT not old school... ! and I have absolutely positively no interest at all in AP

    I'm not in this hobby to spend the time hunting .... The only hunting I currently do is for Mourning Dove and I do that sitting down on my stool ...... Bob G
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    Just wanted to add that I wish they put setting circles on goto mounts in case you want to do it old school.
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    This is certainly an interesting thread, so I thought I'd just register my $0.02 worth.

    I'm a 96% visual guy... only tinkering with a CCD on rare occasions.

    I have two go-to mounts. One is in Florida, and hasn't been used in about six years. The other is an iOptron cube that my wife uses with her solar scope.

    This morning, I have three mounts outside... two Alt/Az and one CG-4 with a tracking motor. Combine them with a Dob, and that's all I need.

    I've participated in two JPL/NASA asteroid occultation data-gathering projects with NASA-provided scopes/mounts... No goto's there.

    My views are not run-and-gun. Maybe that's why I dislike Messier Marathons so much... having only done one. The Zen-like nature of finding a difficult target and observing it peacefully for a long time is what really captures my heart.

    I attend a lot of star parties, and am somewhat amused watching new goto owners jumping, almost frantically, from one target to another. While I know they'll grow out of it, it's still slightly entertaining to watch as I sit patiently observing something I found the "old fashioned" way.

    Thanks to everyone who posted here. I've enjoyed reading different perspectives.

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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    I agree with you John, I enjoy calmly sitting and observing an object long term. I think some people miss seeing some details because like you said they jump around too quickly. I'll sit and view as seeing changes and I also use averted vision to bring out details that a quick glance through the eyepiece will miss.
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    I don't have the $ for a goto mount which I am okay with. I'm dabbling in AP but my true calling is visual.

    I had setting circles on the old refractor, but to be honest, I never used them. I don't have setting circles on any of my scopes now. How do I know I'm on the right target? Star maps and Stellarium.

    I enjoy the hunt. To feel the satisfaction of finding an object completely on my own is what feeds my fire.

    It may have been a touch frustrating at first, but for me, that only makes me more determined. Now I know a lot of object locations without having to look at a map.

    I think goto vs. no goto is based on personal preference, viewing site (city vs. rural), your needs (AP vs. Visual), patience etc.
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    Default Re: No Goto - How many of you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob327 View Post
    I'm not in this hobby to spend the time hunting ....
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